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NCAA investigating Tressel's days at Y-State

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I hope the big C has this thread go away. The statement about hoping the NCAA turns a blind eye.... I think leaves anyone with a bad impression. Already stuff is on the Michigan board about there must have been a lot of hundred dollar handshakes after the game. I would hate to have that attached to every achievement.
 
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stowfan said:
Already stuff is on the Michigan board about there must have been a lot of hundred dollar handshakes after the game. I would hate to have that attached to every achievement.
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Then just remind them of Chris Webber and the fag 5.
Ask them how many games they won? Oh thats right, officialy, 0.
 
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I would think that most of you would find it refreshing that the NCAA is focusing more on Tressel than on Ohio State.
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Not able to speak for any other posters, obviously, but this is in no way "refreshing" or reassuring to me. Jim Tressel has been synonymous with excellence and the right way of doing things, to me. At the same time, I also thought OB was a straight-up guy, so I guess my character judgment skills are suspect.

If it were to be demonstrated that Tressel is not in fact as honest as I have believed, I would be greatly distressed. I don't care who the "backup choice for head coach" might be. Tressel is a guy I have put a lot of faith and trust in, as I'm sure all our players and their parents have.

All this being said, I have seen nothing to demonstrate a lack of honesty or integrity on the part of Jim Tressel. This looks and smells like witch hunt to me.

Goofy, you implied that you had learned something from your contacts to lead you to have less belief in Tressel's integrity. What, exactly, did you learn that led to this conclusion?
 
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maxbuck, my point about the Tressel investigation being "refreshing" is that I would think most people would rather the coach go down than the University. I am one of them. I like Tressel alot. When he was hired I was very happy but I've always been cautious because of what was going on at Y-State. I don't want to see him get nailed with anything and I certainly don't want to see him get demonized like this, but the fact remains that he does have first hand knowledge of some of the violations, like payments. It's my belief he does, at least.

I'd rather go 0-12 with a clean program than 14-0 with a dirty one. Maybe not all of you feel this way but I do. To me, Tressel has really fallen from grace recently but I still respect the hell out of the guy because until all the facts come out I cannot make judgment on him completely. I can only go on what I know at this point.

I hope to god it's all bullshit. I really do because I think some of you are thinking I am out to get Tressel or something. If he is in fact the problem, then I would hope he gets immediately fired. OSU football is the single biggest part of my life in sports and I don't want to ever see ANYONE take them down and I don't care who the coach is. I follow Ohio State and Ohio State only.
 
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stowfan said:
I hope the big C has this thread go away. The statement about hoping the NCAA turns a blind eye.... I think leaves anyone with a bad impression..
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Don't count on it...

People are able to read and discard anything as they wish. Goof has provided solid info before and I have no doubt he is providing what he has heard. Furthermore, he did not say this was Gospel...simply what he has heard.

If people don't want to believe it, that is fine. If people feel the need to worry, that is their right also.
 
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again, if you guys want to discuss this rationally, then PM me. I'm not about to send out the lynch mob on Tressel in here for the world to see and use.

and to think this all started because I said Tressel's coaches at Y-State were being interviewed by the NCAA as part of an investigation against him.
 
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The following is the type language I have a big problem with:

"I don't want to see him get nailed with anything and I certainly don't want to see him get demonized like this, but the fact remains that he does have first hand knowledge of some of the violations, like payments."

The word fact is in there, now here's the next sentence of the same paragraph:

"It's my belief he does, at least".
 
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stowfan, that's my fault for poor choice of words. I guess it's a matter of believing those that have talked to me as fact but trying to state it as my opinion and not something that the NCAA has released as true fact. It's out of respect to BP.

I have to ask something, why do any of you care what Michigan fans think of OSU football? or the fans of anyone for that matter?
 
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Not able to speak for any other posters, obviously, but this is in no way "refreshing" or reassuring to me. Jim Tressel has been synonymous with excellence and the right way of doing things, to me. At the same time, I also thought OB was a straight-up guy, so I guess my character judgment skills are suspect.
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Not so fast, Max. I still believe in OB's character, even after he was fired, and I don't think you were wrong about him. He gave or lent a kid some money to help the kid's family living in a war zone. He didn't call a "booster" to arrange a car. He didn't try to insulate himself from the transaction to he could deny knowing about it later. He did it straight up, with records tying the transaction to him and everything. Knowing that if discovered, it would seriously damage his college coaching career. This was clearly not the act of a slimeball trying to get a recruit. It was the act of a man of character helping a young man in trouble, at considerable risk to himself.
 
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I don't mind the rumors so much, as long as we are clearly labeling them as such. Goofy has been very good about saying this is rumor and second/third hand information. So there isn't really a problem. We all hear stuff we want to share.

My personal opinion is that everything is OK with the investigation. Not that I like being investigated by the NCAA, again. But in the sense of, "let's get the whole MC incident (and by association Jim Tressel) behind us". The only way to do that is a thorough and honest look at our program by an outside party. Part of the reason I like Jim Tressel and Andy Geiger is my perception of their honesty and integrity. JT was brought in to correct many of the problems (perceived or real) with the program. I love him as a coach because I trust what he says and I trust that he is doing things the right way. If that is not the case, then we should know the truth. OSu deserves the best, and we should not shy away from the hard questions. I believe that JT and AG are quality people doing the best job possible within the constrains of the rules. If that is not the case, we should know about it and fix the problem ... period. The truth is never the problem, hiding from the truth almost always is.

It's time to put this whole saga behind us ... hopefully this latest investigation will do just that.
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my read also. We will hear a lot of other insider concerns but they will all wash out in the end. Not that Goofy isn't getting good info and that there is an investigation going on, but what and why the NCAA is looking for would need to come from them. All will be fine in the end.
 
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Sorry guys, not much more to tell..I've posted a couple of times on other threads..didn't see anyone on turkey day that normally would have info but I did talk to one person that I didn't realize had connections with Geiger and he said if Geiger knows anything then he's a good actor...he said he doesn't believe OSU knows about any of this stuff
 
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