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NCAA investigating Tressel's days at Y-State

Discussion in 'ESPN's 04-05 war against tOSU and Tressel' started by GoofyBuckeye, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. stowfan

    stowfan Senior

    I hope the big C has this thread go away. The statement about hoping the NCAA turns a blind eye.... I think leaves anyone with a bad impression. Already stuff is on the Michigan board about there must have been a lot of hundred dollar handshakes after the game. I would hate to have that attached to every achievement.
     
  2. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    Then just remind them of Chris Webber and the fag 5.
    Ask them how many games they won? Oh thats right, officialy, 0.
     
  3. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    Not able to speak for any other posters, obviously, but this is in no way "refreshing" or reassuring to me. Jim Tressel has been synonymous with excellence and the right way of doing things, to me. At the same time, I also thought OB was a straight-up guy, so I guess my character judgment skills are suspect.

    If it were to be demonstrated that Tressel is not in fact as honest as I have believed, I would be greatly distressed. I don't care who the "backup choice for head coach" might be. Tressel is a guy I have put a lot of faith and trust in, as I'm sure all our players and their parents have.

    All this being said, I have seen nothing to demonstrate a lack of honesty or integrity on the part of Jim Tressel. This looks and smells like witch hunt to me.

    Goofy, you implied that you had learned something from your contacts to lead you to have less belief in Tressel's integrity. What, exactly, did you learn that led to this conclusion?
     
  4. Buckmark1

    Buckmark1 Rookie

    That's my question also!!
     
  5. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    maxbuck, my point about the Tressel investigation being "refreshing" is that I would think most people would rather the coach go down than the University. I am one of them. I like Tressel alot. When he was hired I was very happy but I've always been cautious because of what was going on at Y-State. I don't want to see him get nailed with anything and I certainly don't want to see him get demonized like this, but the fact remains that he does have first hand knowledge of some of the violations, like payments. It's my belief he does, at least.

    I'd rather go 0-12 with a clean program than 14-0 with a dirty one. Maybe not all of you feel this way but I do. To me, Tressel has really fallen from grace recently but I still respect the hell out of the guy because until all the facts come out I cannot make judgment on him completely. I can only go on what I know at this point.

    I hope to god it's all bullshit. I really do because I think some of you are thinking I am out to get Tressel or something. If he is in fact the problem, then I would hope he gets immediately fired. OSU football is the single biggest part of my life in sports and I don't want to ever see ANYONE take them down and I don't care who the coach is. I follow Ohio State and Ohio State only.
     
  6. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Don't count on it...

    People are able to read and discard anything as they wish. Goof has provided solid info before and I have no doubt he is providing what he has heard. Furthermore, he did not say this was Gospel...simply what he has heard.

    If people don't want to believe it, that is fine. If people feel the need to worry, that is their right also.
     
  7. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    again, if you guys want to discuss this rationally, then PM me. I'm not about to send out the lynch mob on Tressel in here for the world to see and use.

    and to think this all started because I said Tressel's coaches at Y-State were being interviewed by the NCAA as part of an investigation against him.
     
  8. stowfan

    stowfan Senior

    The following is the type language I have a big problem with:

    "I don't want to see him get nailed with anything and I certainly don't want to see him get demonized like this, but the fact remains that he does have first hand knowledge of some of the violations, like payments."

    The word fact is in there, now here's the next sentence of the same paragraph:

    "It's my belief he does, at least".
     
  9. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    stowfan, that's my fault for poor choice of words. I guess it's a matter of believing those that have talked to me as fact but trying to state it as my opinion and not something that the NCAA has released as true fact. It's out of respect to BP.

    I have to ask something, why do any of you care what Michigan fans think of OSU football? or the fans of anyone for that matter?
     
  10. IrontonBuck

    IrontonBuck Walk On

    Not so fast, Max. I still believe in OB's character, even after he was fired, and I don't think you were wrong about him. He gave or lent a kid some money to help the kid's family living in a war zone. He didn't call a "booster" to arrange a car. He didn't try to insulate himself from the transaction to he could deny knowing about it later. He did it straight up, with records tying the transaction to him and everything. Knowing that if discovered, it would seriously damage his college coaching career. This was clearly not the act of a slimeball trying to get a recruit. It was the act of a man of character helping a young man in trouble, at considerable risk to himself.
     
  11. Buckinghorse

    Buckinghorse Will work for bpCash

    my read also. We will hear a lot of other insider concerns but they will all wash out in the end. Not that Goofy isn't getting good info and that there is an investigation going on, but what and why the NCAA is looking for would need to come from them. All will be fine in the end.
     
  12. Folanator

    Folanator Brawndo's got electrolytes...

    Man, the timing on this is horrible. I pray that this ends up being nothing.
     
  13. Lazlo

    Lazlo Good people drink good beer. ~ HST

    anything new goofy?
     
  14. crazybuckeye

    crazybuckeye Sophmore

    Well, for one thing he knows a lot more than he's letting on in here.
     
  15. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    Sorry guys, not much more to tell..I've posted a couple of times on other threads..didn't see anyone on turkey day that normally would have info but I did talk to one person that I didn't realize had connections with Geiger and he said if Geiger knows anything then he's a good actor...he said he doesn't believe OSU knows about any of this stuff
     

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