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NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Ohio Steeler, May 31, 2006.

  1. woofermazing

    woofermazing Senior

    Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
  2. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    FWIW, I posted this in the Baylor thread, but apparently the NCAA never declared him ineligible. Baylor made the call on their own. The NCAA released a statement saying that they have made no ruling, nor have they even received a request for a waiver from Baylor.
  3. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    On the other hand, why didn't Baylor - a Baptist school - do the Christian thing and open up their diversity scholarship fund? What kind of school looks at a kid with a 4.1 HS GPA, and a year as a successful all conference academic athlete and can't open some doors? What kind of a coach doesn't go to bat for such a student?

    I feel like a U Texas fan, I wouldn't piss on Art Briles if he were on fire.
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2015
  4. mendensa

    mendensa Senior

    I heard this on the way in to work today on the radio. Initially it sounded like another black eye for the NCAA. The more I hear, sounds like Baylor is the one throwing this kid out on the street (literally), not the NCAA.
  5. woofermazing

    woofermazing Senior

    There are limitations as to what they can do with him being on the football team, they can't show preferential treatment to an athlete. Whatever he gets is probably based on his FAFSA and he is treated like any other student. He may already have a diversity scholarship, he has something academic but it doesn't cover other expenses.

    Well, he's just not part of the team. It sounds like he has an academic scholarships and some financial aid and none of that is dependent on his football eligibility. My suspicions is that this is a pr campaign by Baylor to get him a waiver. The NCAA is notoriously stingy with them unless their is a public opinion backlash, like the homeless Boise State recruit.
  6. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    If you get thru admissions at Cornell and can get on the field as a walk-on at Baylor, you can probably get a scholarship (either athletic or academic) that covers tuition, room and board as well as playing time at a host of other D-1 schools that don't have sky-high private school tuition. He would've had a picture of what kind of financial aid package he'd get in Waco before he ever set foot on campus. This isn't on the NCAA or Baylor. He decided that not slumming it in the Mountain West, MAC or Sun Belt was more important than having his own place to live.
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  7. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    The article seems to say that this infraction occurred before he ever attended Baylor.
  8. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    'Crop-top' jerseys like Ohio State RB Ezekiel Elliott's targeted by NCAA

    Amid the news that the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Proposal would not be altering the ineligible linemen downfield rule as initially proposed, the NCAA also announced last week several other minor rules changes, one of which is of particular interest to a certain Ohio State running back.

    Per the NCAA, players who wear so-called crop-top jerseys in such a style that creates "exposed back pads" will now be asked to leave the field "for at least one play."

    "The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game," the NCAA's release states. "The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue."
    Some other rules changes worth noting:

    "A 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles -- for example, after fumbles." Expect to see a lot of flags fly early in the season as players adjust to this rule. This is a shrewd move from the NCAA rules panels; post-fumble scrums have been guaranteed chippiness-generators in recent seasons.

    "Instant replay reviews will be allowed to see if a kicking team player blocked the receiving team before the ball traveled 10 yards on onside-kick plays." And onside kicks get that much more incrementally difficult (again).

    "If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock, and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds." Wait, so if Team A is driving for a game-winning field goal down two points with seven seconds to play, and a helmet pops off a defender from Team B, Team B automatically wins the game? And this was already the case last year? Are coaches in Team B's position going to order every defender on their team to loosen their chinstraps with the game on the line?

    (No, they won't, and there's a good chance we're misinterpreting this somehow. But it seems ... exploitable.)

    Entire article:
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  9. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Could the media be lazier? First the complete ignorance of the P12/B12 idea about frosh eligibility and now this. Both were stories long before this current news cycle, in this case weeks before.

    I'm fairly certain by now that most journalists wait to write (or at least publish) their articles until the trending reports are in from twitter.
  10. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    It's like Wooderson said, man. The older you do get, the more rules they are going to try to make you follow.
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  11. Jake

    Jake They took the bar! ‘17 The Deuce Champ '18 The Deuce Champ Fantasy Baseball Champ

    A rule change I'd like to see is the clock being restarted once the ball is ready for play after an incomplete pass. With teams throwing the ball more than ever, and over an hour of commercials, games are getting longer and longer. Three hours should be more than enough to complete a 60 minute football game, but it rarely happens that quickly these days.
  12. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    So because commercials are running more than an hour, the solution is to take away more playing time?
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  13. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    NCAA proposals made to add an early signing period, change satellite camp rules

    The NCAA’s Division I Council has proposed an early signing period for college football and will vote on proposed changes to satellite camps.

    The signing change, recommended by the DI Football Oversight Committee, would add two three-day signing periods. The first would start on the last Wednesday in June and the second would happen in December coinciding with when junior college players can sign Letters of Intent.

    Recruits are currently barred from officially signing with a school until National Signing Day begins on the first Wednesday of February. Any commitment a recruit makes before NSD is considered non-binding.

    “The working group did a deep dive on recruiting from beginning to end, and I think what we came up with as a proposal is both student-athlete-friendly and coach- and staff-friendly,” Big 12 commissioner and Football Oversight Committee chairman Bob Bowlsby said in a statement. “We hit a sweet spot.”

    Ohio State coach Urban Meyer has spoken out against the possibility of an early signing period. His reasoning? High school kids change their minds. Though an early signing period could offer a recruit a sense of security in the case of an injury or other issue over his senior year.

    The Council will also consider a proposal that limits coaches to attending satellite camps on 10 days and mandates that all camps “must be owned, operated and conducted by NCAA member schools and occur on the school’s campus or in facilities the school primarily uses for practice or competition.”

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  14. scarletmike

    scarletmike Researching the Magic!

    Dug this back up because something that I (and it seems everyone has) overlooked is that the 10th assistant coach is tied to the early signing periods. The vote in April is for both, not one or the other. Urban has been openly against the early signing period but the 10th coach is pretty much unanimously supported. I suspect the vote will go heavily in favor simply because of the 10th assistant coach.

  15. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    It makes a lot of sense to tie two completely separate ideas together and make it both or none. Allow me to list the ways how it makes sense:

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