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Now Bill O'Reilly is claiming he's a victim

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by MyDixieWrecked, Oct 13, 2004.

  1. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html

     
  2. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    wheres tibor with his :tibor: violin guy?
     
  3. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    You have proof that there is no such lawsuit against him?
     
  4. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    Can Clarity change the settings so that the violin guy is no longer :boohoo:, but instead :tibor:?
     
  5. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    id be for it.

    jesus christ tibor....you got a filter search that goes off when your name is mentioned? :lol:
     
  6. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    anything to drown out the debate....
     
  7. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    shit....you even caught my post pre-edit.

    the debate is drowning out the stupid yankee fans and that fucking chant.
     
  8. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    There is such a lawsuit - sexual harrassment.

    This is typical O'Reilly - the master of the preemptive strike. As soon as he heard this woman was filing a suit he went public to discredit her and try to gain the initiative.

    He knows his audience and that 90% of them will find a way to believe whatever he is putting out. From what I have read he could be in trouble on this one.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html
     
  9. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    with all the youngins' on this BP board... you can learn from this...

    we all say a lot of stuff at work in jest and sometimes just to be nice or kind.. but in today's world it can come back to bite you in the ass...

    guess O'Reilley told this gal who just had a divorce she might want to buy a vibrator.. and I know I've made jokes like that with people I thought were close to me... but ya never quite know...

    knew a very straight-laced guy who thought he was being personable to a subordinate and sometimes would tell her how nice she looked that day or that he liked her hair that day... she didn't get a promotion she wanted.. and bang, there came the sexual harassment lawsuit... and guess who got the promo... and who got a letter in his file...

    don't be naive and think your company will stand up for who and what is right.. they don't want in any lawsuits... and they'll sell your butt right down the river if it saves them money...

    oh, and off the record, I can see O'Reilley saying everything this gal said he did... but that's not the point
     
  10. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    I don't know, man. I read most of the complaint at the Smoking Gun, and some of that stuff seemed pretty over-the-top. I mean, it made Clarence Thomas look like a bastion of virtue. I won't say that none of what she is saying could be true, but it looks to me like some serious exaggerations to extort money, because I can't see anyone with any desire to maintain their career (which clearly he has) saying half that stuff, in gest or not. Who knows..."I could be wrong".
     
  11. As a conservative, I don't want to see any conservatives (or anyone for that matter) falsely accused of anything. If this isn't true, then I certainly hope the accuser's career is ruined over this. If it *is* true, then I hope O'Reilly's career is ruined because of it.

    Either way, I think O'Reilly is an arrogant putz.
     
  12. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I read that also and to be honest it sounds like stuff O'Reilly might say (I have heard him kidding around on his show about porn stars and the like).

    NJ Buckeye is correct. The problem us guys have is we don't do a good job reading the signals we get from women we are kidding with. We think that little chuckle means we are funny when it really means they are embarrased. The part of the O'Reilly complaint I would question is how clear she was about being offended. But the bottom line is that if he said this stuff (and don't be surprised if some of it is no tape) he has only himself to blame.

    I used to tell people that my career goal was to get high enough in the organization that if some sweet young thing wanted to sleep her way to the top she had to go through me. Once I got there I had to lose that line in a hurry. (They always found a way around me anyhow.)
     
  13. kinch

    kinch Wash me Staff Member

    Supposedly the accuser tape-recorded some of their conversations. That would be bad for O'Reilly. (that is the rumor based on the specific comments shown in the complaint, but I don't believe there is any other evidence of it.)

    Also, according to the Today show today, or rather the lawyer on it, they just came from two weeks of settlement talks with Fox. Two weeks of settlement talks over a false claim? Of course, that could happen.
     
  14. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    Two weeks is nothing. Trust me, I work in litigation, and the company's potential exposure is huge. Even a false claim could well be worth millions of dollars, once you factor in the potential exposure (should they lose, and it's always a risk) and the actual expense of paying the attorneys, experts, etc.
     
  15. tallwarrior

    tallwarrior Earned, not Given

    They wanted 60 million dollars for talk about vibrators and fantasy sex talk. Is that really worth 60 million dollars to anyone?


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    Then in January 2004, Mackris ultimately decided to leave the show to accept an even higher-paying position with CNN, Fox’s major competitor. A few months after leaving Fox, however, Mackris spoke with O’Reilly and expressed unhappiness with her new job at CNN. She said that her boss at CNN had been terminated for sexual harassment, and asked O’Reilly if she could return to The O’Reilly Factor at the higher salary she then earned at CNN. Mackris returned to Fox in July 2004 as an Associate Producer for The O’Reilly Factor at a salary of $93,200.

    Wow, no loyalty here. 93K is a shitty salary in NYC.

    Fox and News Corp representatives spoke with and met several times with Morelli and his associate, David S. Ratner. Mackris attended one of the meetings. At those meetings and during telephone conversations, Defendants demanded $60 million in hush money to keep quiet and never once lowered this outrageous, extortionate demand. At one of the meetings, Morelli allowed the Fox and News Corp representatives to read a draft of a harassment complaint (“the draft complaint”) that he threatened to file on Mackris’s behalf.

    I am not a lawyer but is this kind of bullying considered extortion?

    What a mess O'Reilly got himself into.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2004

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