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Observations from C Deck

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Oh8ch, Oct 30, 2004.

  1. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Back in my regular seats for the first time since the Marshall game - thank goodness! A few thoughts.

    1. Don't let the score fool you. This was another anemic performance by the offense (we did not have a single drive of 40 or more yards and our longest drive in plays went 10 plays for 16 yards) against a poor football team. It was old style "Tressel Ball" at its finest - but I will never agree that an ineffective offense belongs as part of any good football team. Before the three game losing streak JT could get away with his "mistake free opportunistic" line. Today we were lucky to be playing an equally ineffective offense lead by a QB that made mistakes and bad throws. We were up 14-0 with 5 yards total Offense. I was fooled once into believing this was how it is done. We need an O.

    2. Kudos to the D. In the first 21:16 of the game we ran 6 offensive plays - two three and outs. Twelve yards total Offense. We had the ball for less than 9 minutes of the first half. You simply can't leave the D on the field all day long and expect good things to continue to happen. Despite the forecast it was sunny and hot - which takes its toll. Those guys played great.

    3. The Troy Smith fan club meeting has been moved from Nationwide Arenda to the small conference room at the Red Roof Inn off Olentangy . OK, that's unfair. For the most part he did what was asked of him, but the same can be said for Zwick (it wasn't THAT windy today).

    My only point is that Zwick was not the problem with this Offense any more than Smith is the solution. JT did made his post game pronouncment that Smith made good decisions, so it sound like he is our QB for the immediate future - and that makes me a Troy Smith fan. (Actually, other than the fumble JT was pretty high on Smith's performance - which in itself is an interesting comment about his expectations from this offense.)

    4. All that said, gotta give Troy my vote for play of the game. About half way through the third quarter on 3rd and 8 he couldn't find a receiver, started to run, couldn't find anywhere to go, stepped back and found Ginn for the first down. That was one fine play. (OK - play of the game was really the Ginn punt return, but everybody is picking that one.)

    5. Who is second team QB? There was a play during the first half where Smith had an equipment proplem. Zwick isn't ready to go (per JT). OSU called time out to get it fixed rather than put in a sub. What if Troy had gotten his bell rung? Do you burn Boeckman's redshirt for one series or bring in one of the walk-ons to hand the ball off a few times? Starter or not we need Zwick back in playing condition soon.

    6. Maurice Hall fan club meeting will be held at my house - outdoors if necessary. Gotta love his performance today. This is a kid playing on chronically bad wheels and giving it all he has. He came up huge today and if it turns out to be the biggest game of his career I am going to savor it.

    7. I am anxious to watch Rehring on the replay. I know he got one holding call, but he was in most of the second half (you can't miss him - kid is HUGE) and seemed to be doing a credible job. It only takes one or two players stepping up to turn a really bad OL into a really good OL. We still have three weeks till Novermber 20th.

    8. Who IS callling the plays? Three pass plays into the wind on the first series? That's cool. But with the ball at the PSU 27, under 7 minutes left in the game, the wind at your back, and an 11 point lead even the biggest fan of an open O had to be looking for the off tackle play to set up the FG. Instead we run a pass play and get sacked. Just surprised.

    9. Speakiing of calls. Your team hasn't moved the ball well all day. (Hell, your team hasn't moved the ball all year.) You are down 14 with 9:30 left and the ball at your opponents five. How do you kick a field goal? I took a PSU fan to the game with me and you trust me - we don't know what pain feels like.

    10. 7 of 12 on third down conversions. That is the first time this season OSU has been over 50% on third down conversions.

    11. What are the odds that on the day your great-great uncle's number is retired you would suffer a season ending injury. All the best to Rob Harley.

    12. Ted Ginn gives me wood. I have watched enough punt returns from C Deck over the years that I can generally sense where the tackle is likely to come from when the ball is caught. I thought PSU had the coverage and was in position to make the tackle. He didn't put any moves on them - he simply blew by them. He is a very special player.
     
  2. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I agree/disagree with you. I disagree with our offense being in your words Anemic. Our defense kept itself on the field period! as you noted we got 7/12 3rd down conversions so the offense did its share. The reason we didn't move the ball more than 40 yards on most drives is plainly because we had excellent field positions most of the day. I agree that Ginn makes me smile, and I agree I'm a smith/Hall fan. I don't agee however with you saying Smith is not the solution. As of right now this offense was D-E-A-D with Zwick on offense. Now our offense sustains drives and makes some plays. I'm not saying Smith can cure cancer or anything like that but you have to think guys? Smith was the starting QB since last week and since then I've seen dramatic changes. So only thing I don't agree with is you saying Smith isn't the solution/ and that our offense did horrible today. Because it was quit the opposite today. We had drives killed by penalties more than 2 times today. Also Had 2 Turnovers around the 50 yrd line that really hurt. Also our defense was horrible on 3rd down conversions. The offense was not anemic by any means tho. The yardage just doesn't show how they played today.
     
  3. StoRMinBrutus

    StoRMinBrutus Great 2 B A Buckeyes !!!

    bukIpower,
    Our offense had one sustaining drive that resulted in a TD. No matter what they have to improve on the opportunities they are given ... Coach Tressel and the Offense alike. OSU's defense didn't help the offense either at times with their lack of stopping OSU on 3rd downs. Having only 1 sustaining drive, with the help of a short feild to work with, is some cause for concern. The potential is still there though. They didn't make any huge crazy dumb mistakes. They do have to reduce the critical errors though. Like you said too though, Troy sure does seem to give more of a spark to te Offense though. Who knows I'll leave that one to the caoches.
    Bottom line is OSU WON :groove:
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2004
  4. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I agree with you stormin.... 1 sustained drive isn't great, but seriously did you see the outta whack number today????? Penn State had like 30 more plays than our Offense did. Seriously, I thought our defense played alittle more poorly than I thought our offense did. I realize our Offense has work to do and thats common with a young team, but with penalties/ fumbles/ to go along with POOR 3RD DOWN CONVERSIONS on Defense..it didn't really give this offense much time to work with in the first place. we were 7/12 on 3rd down which is fine in my books! not to mention we shouldv'e been 9/12 because of two drops. So many things are accountable for the reason why our defense was on the field.
     
  5. StoRMinBrutus

    StoRMinBrutus Great 2 B A Buckeyes !!!

    Good points Brotha Buckeye !! It will get better soon or so many Buckaholics will be overdosing on Pepto Bismol and Tums in the coming weeks :slappy:
     
  6. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    well hopefully if stanton is out we only have to bring the Tums and not both...... But just summing up I thought the offense played adequite but by no means did they suck.
     
  7. lloydman

    lloydman NCAA Junkie

    I would think for a series or 2 either a walk-on could handle it or you could put Ginn behind center. Ginn's 2003 QB stats from USAToday.com:
    Rushed for 845 yards and 13 TDs on 100 carries and passed for 931 yards and 12 TDs on 62-for-92 efficiency.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/2003-12-24-2003-all-usa-football_x.htm
     
  8. ScarletArrow

    ScarletArrow I'm wearing Gold Pants

    Good stuff.

    Boeckman would have been called on had Smith gotten hurt.

    I'm thankful that we didn't have to burn another redshirt - especially on a position so important.

    Smith seems to be pretty sturdy when running the ball - oftne breaking tackles - but even at 200 lbs. he could get injured if someone were to land on him wrong (e.g. Stanton at MSU).
     
  9. BuckBackHome

    BuckBackHome Wolverine is largest member of weasel family

    I only focused on Rehring on one play and I could see what some people were talking about him taking some plays off. It ended up being a broken play and he just kind of stood there. I don't doubt he will soon start hitting anybody in his way, no matter the play, but it stood out on the play I watched him.
     
  10. StoRMinBrutus

    StoRMinBrutus Great 2 B A Buckeyes !!!

    Never would I say that about the Buckeyes. I will be more relieved though when OSU's offense finally matures and the Offensive line has a complete game of sustaining blocks and then they start racking up more consistent long good drives, and top it off with eatting up more clock time.
     
  11. scooter1369

    scooter1369 Chief Toad Fart

    What I saw a lot of was Penn State getting away with absolutely raping our defense and only getting one holding call all day. Apparently JoePa's incessant crying over the last two years have made the officials afraid to call penalties on them. The running play that set up their TD had four blatant holds that should have been called. I hadn't seen holds that obvious since Wrestlemania V. When they were called for something, JoePa, as usual, was on the field bitching about it. Even a false start. That senial old man has the officials wrapped around his schlong, and it may be the only reason he's still there. And its the only reason we didn't win by 21 or more.

    Our offense didn't look that bad. A long end around called back for a hold 15 yards behind the play would have added 37 yards to our production. A couple other big plays were called back on holding calls that were never called on Penn State.

    Only 8 pass attempts is also an indicator that Troy escaped the collapsing pocket before he could find an open receiver. There were probably 16 pass plays called. He had to bail out on several of them.
     

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