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OFFICIAL: Biblical/Theology Discussion thread

stowfan;2362954; said:
What feedback did you get?

I can't say it will help you much as my personal persuasion has changed over the years, but I'll put it this way: I think that any time a Christian has an interest in gaining an historical perspective of their faith, then it's a good thing. I think Rood is an outlet to do that.
 
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Having admitted to having to enjoying talking Bible over on the Gay Marriage thread, I figure I'd pop on this thread rather than cloud that one.....

So.... riddle me this....

In Genesis 1, God's busy creating things. Of course, they are being created in an order, specifically as follows:

20 And God said, “Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the dome of the sky.” 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, of every kind, with which the waters swarm, and every winged bird of every kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures of every kind: cattle and creeping things and wild animals of the earth of every kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals of the earth of every kind, and the cattle of every kind, and everything that creeps upon the ground of every kind. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make humankind
in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”
27 So God created humankind in his image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

OK, fair enough. There are things living in the water, birds flying around... After that, we get cows and such. Good deal. Then along comes Mankind, created male and female. Fine.

But.... when we get to Genesis 2,

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.”
18 Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper as his partner.” 19 So out of the ground the Lord God formed every animal of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every animal of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper as his partner.

Wait... what?

Now, interpretation aside, Genesis 1 makes it clear that the last of God's creation was man. But, here God's telling what may be a lie to Adam (That he'll die when he eats a certain fruit, but where he does and doesn't die that day (and the issue we were having over on the gay marriage thread)) prior to bringing out of the ground and forming birds and every animal .... One might assume Birds were brought out of the waters in Genesis 1, though it doesn't appear to me that's made explicit, but... what we can be sure of is Birds were around a full two verses before God made man... and in Genesis 2, it's clear God and Adam have been chit chatting about gardening and getting Adam a partner before there were birds and "every animal"

Incidentally, did God actually think Adam should be paired up with some animal?

He says "it's not good for you to be alone, I'll get you a partner" and proceeds to make a bunch of animals that are, to be sure, most dissimilar to a human. So.... What's up with this? I mean, ultimately God puts Adam to sleep and makes woman.....

When did God figure this out? After Adam had named ... what... a couple million species (It does say "Every living creature" after all) any of which he might have chosen for his "partner" but doesn't only then God figures out that he should create a woman?

Couldn't he just have easily created woman when he created man? (Indeed, Genesis 1 suggests that what he actually did in the first place.... but... even if that interpretation were the case, Woman's clearly not around the garden as our characters take the stage in Act II. ) And then had them name all the other things he either had already created or would soon create?
 
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You did it to me again. Fuck you and the bird you flew in on

Which leads to the question, if there was Popeye's chicken, wtf was Eve doing eating an apple?

That's right! The serpent hypnotized her and stole her popeye's chicken. And her red beans and rice too... but probably not her biscuits because they're just "ok"
 
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Which leads to the question, if there was Popeye's chicken, wtf was Eve doing eating an apple?

That's right! The serpent hypnotized her and stole her popeye's chicken. And her red beans and rice too... but probably not her biscuits because they're just "ok"
You're an idiot if you think Popeye's biscuits are just ok. They are a buttery delight. Btw spicy chicken is a must if eating Popeye's as the plain is...well...plain.
 
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