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Game Thread Ohio State @ Indiana - 09/14/19, 12:00PM (FOX)

Discussion in '2019 Football Season Capsule' started by Dryden, May 30, 2019.

  1. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    They were like that, sure, but it was more relevant to their audience then as well.

    Times, and kids, have changed. It's not that you can't give a rah rah speech to them but you can't bullshit them. They don't just buy what the coach says because he's the coach.

    He was the only one in that room believing that nonsense. It actually reminded me of the Dos Equis coach commercial

     
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  2. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Post-Game Thoughts

    1. Another week, another rout, this time with perennial Big Ten doormat Indiana playing the sacrificial lamb. Have we really learned anything about the 2019 Buckeyes other than what we knew already from following recruiting for the past four years, namely that this is an incredibly talented and deep team? The Buckeyes have yet to be tested, and we may not get to see the first legitimate challenge until October 26th when Wisconsin comes to town.

    2. Just as the peanut gallery tries to convince me that Ohio State is now a "pass first" offense, the Buckeyes run the ball 42 times for 306 yards (7.3 average) and 3 touchdowns. J.K. Dobbins (193 yards, TD) and Master Teague (106 yards, TD) both rushed for over 100 yards, the first time that two Buckeyes have cracked the century mark in the same game since November 11, 2017 (Michigan State), when Mike Weber (162 yards) and Dobbins (124 yards) combined to accomplish the feat. Yesterday's performance was Dobbins's second-best output (203 yards vs Maryland in 2018), and Teague's career best (and first 100-yard game).

    3. Justin Fields had a rather uninspiring performance, completing 14 of 24 passes (58.3%) for 199 yards and 3 touchdowns, and 4 rushes for 11 yards and a touchdown. After one final patsy next week (Miami of Ohio), the Big Ten season starts in earnest, with consecutive games @Nebraska, Michigan State, @Northwestern, and Wisconsin. That four-game stretch will tell us a lot about Fields, especially the Sparty and Wisky games, as both teams have staunch defenses.

    4. Chris Olave is developing into the WR1 for this Buckeye team. Yesterday, Olave had three receptions for 70 yards, including a 37-yard touchdown, and he also blocked a punt for a safety. Olave now has five career touchdown receptions, all from at least 24 yards out; and two blocked punts, each of which led to a score. Olave has certainly exceeded expectations, as he entered Ohio State a three-star recruit with a 247 Composite ranking of .8875 (third-lowest in Ohio State's outstanding class of 2018). Olave is an example of Mark Pantoni finding a talented but unheralded kid late in the recruiting process and the staff quickly selling him on Ohio State.

    5. The Buckeye defense was again stingy, surrendering only 10 points, 42 yards rushing (1.4 per carry), and 257 yards overall (3.8 per play). The Hoosier's lone touchdown came on a trick play, when wide receiver Donavan Hale caught a lateral and then found tight end Peyton Hendershot wide open for a 49-yard touchdown near the end of the first half. It was an inexcusable breakdown on the part of the Buckeye defense, and it led to the longest play of the season by an opponent. Until that point, however, the Indiana drive chart looked like this: 3 plays, -4 yards, punt; 3 plays, -3 yards, punt; 9 plays, 59 yards, field goal; 3 plays, 18 yards, punt; 3 plays, -5 yards, punt, safety; 4 plays, 27 yards, punt. That's a total of 25 plays, 92 yards, 5 punts, 3 points for IU, and 2 points for OSU.

    6. The Buckeye defensive line performed well, as expected. Chase Young had another All American day, with 3 tackles and 2 sacks. Freshmen Zach Harrison and Javontae Jean-Baptiste each had a pair of tackles, and each recorded his first career sack. Tyler Friday had 3 tackles and 2 TFLs, one of which was a sack.

    7. As time expired in the third quarter, Damon Arnette killed Indiana's best drive of the day (12 plays, 68 yards) with an interception near the goal line that he returned 96 yards for a touchdown. Arnette's pick six was the fourth-longest in Buckeye history, trailing only 100-yard returns by David Brown (10/18/86 vs Purdue); Marlon Kerner (10/23/93 vs Purdue); and Will Allen (09/06/03 vs San Diego State).

    8. Ohio State had 5 penalties for 45 yards, lost a fumble, and missed a 32-yard field goal. Not a sloppy performance, but little details that need to be worked on for this team to become a true championship contender.
     
  3. Nigel Tufnel

    Nigel Tufnel Choking on vomit

    I’m sure you are right I just think it’s a cheap shot to slam a coach for getting rah rah. It’s what they all do. If we saw a vid of our coach doing it before a win, I suspect we’d applaud it.
     
  4. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    sticking with my theme of looking at the 10% or so of things they can improve on or could be exploited by a better team;

    I saw Borland on the field a lot in passing downs (or at least it seemed that way).

    Now my question is this; did IU coaches find a way to fool the OSU defensive coaches through personnel packages and bait them into that or was that designed?

    It's worth looking at because the kid has the heart of a lion but he is not an asset in defending the passing game (let's just leave it at that).

    As I watched it last night I kept wondering where the Werner/Harrison/Browning lineup was.
     
  5. Best Buckeye

    Best Buckeye Pretending I'm a pleasant person is exhausting. Staff Member

    Sticking with my theme of just enjoying the game and the win. I decided I would let the coaches worry about improving. They seem to be doing a hell of a job so far.
     
  6. Onebuckfan

    Onebuckfan classof76

    I don’t think our inside pass rush was as good as weeks one and two. Haubeil doesn’t have my confidence. But really no worries keep working and remain focused.
     
  7. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    58% completion with 3TDs and 0 INTs while not scrambling what so ever IMO isn't uninspiring. If Dobbins catches that wide open TD he's 62% for 4TDs.

    We haven't even seen Fields have to take over a game yet. He simply hasn't had to.

    I love where Fields is at through 3 games. Played great and still has so much to improve on.
     
  8. DaddyBigBucks

    DaddyBigBucks Still Calculating Buckeye DSC... Staff Member Bookie

    Could be wrong, but it didn’t seem to me that the coach was being slammed for being rah rah, but rather for,

    1. Being delusional
    2. Putting all his eggs in a basket that was about to get stomped on, and
    3. Not understanding his audience
    There’s a huge difference between the way the Buckeyes react when Marotti hollers, “It. Is. Time.” and the way the Hossiers reacted to Allen. A lot of that is the intrinsic honesty of the message, a lot about earned respect, a lot about knowing the audience.

    Call it cheap if you like; I think condescending might be a better description, but even that is not an unwarranted reaction/take in my opinion.
     
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  9. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    And if there was a video of Day or Marotti doing it before losing by 41 points, I'd call them clowns too.

    You only get two or three of those fire and brimstone speeches a year. Use them wisely. This is the third season in a row Allen burnt one on Ohio State. He really ought to take that L, pocket that speech, and save it for when they're 5-6 and need a win over Minnesota to be bowl eligible.
     
  10. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Good point... they're so focused on trying to hit a home run against OSU/PED/UM that they're failing to even become bowl eligible.

    Just focus on beating Rutgers, Purdue, Maryland, and Sparty.
     
  11. BUCKDUBBS007

    BUCKDUBBS007 TSUN GIVE A DAMN METER: 0% Torrents

  12. OHSportsFan

    OHSportsFan Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy

    On top of all that, he did the heavy talking then showed up with a gameplan that was less than inspiring. His team was not prepared to come out and play yesterday. For all the pomp and circumstance his offense went out and did rinky dink shit before throwing heaves on 3rd down.

    He admitted after the game he didn’t have the team prepared so it’s no surprise the reaction if his players on that. Everyone in that locker room knew they didn’t have a chance and they no showed for their “Super Bowl”. Congrats Hoosiers.
     
  13. brodybuck21

    brodybuck21 THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Staff Member Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Theres a difference between trying to fire your guys up and being a jackass clown......allen and hairball are the latter
     
  14. Jagdaddy

    Jagdaddy Senior

    As I posted right after they showed his pregame speech, (I was posting from my phone then so I didn't bother with the video):

     
  15. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Well to be fair every coach says that after a loss " I didn't prepare them enough".

    IMO there is no game plan for them that would've been successful. We are just superior in everyway.
     
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