Telekinesis
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They were running the football perfectly well with Haskins under center. In fact, when they did score in the red zone, Haskins took the snaps. Just going by the film.
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They were running the football perfectly well with Haskins under center. In fact, when they did score in the red zone, Haskins took the snaps. Just going by the film.
Post-Game Notes
1. Dwayne Haskins had, for him, a lousy game, completing just 24 of 39 passes (.615) for 227 yards and a TD. Haskins had only two completions of 20+ yards and missed several wide open receivers on easy throws. Of course, the wide receivers contributed a couple of key drops, but the lack of success in the passing game yesterday rests largely on Haskins's shoulders.
2. The Tate Martell experiment had mixed results, mostly negative. Martell first entered the game with Ohio State facing a 4th-and-1 at the Michigan State 35-yard line with about a minute left in the third quarter. The Buckeyes promptly committed a false start penalty when Martell and center Michael Jordan couldn't get on the same page regarding the snap. After the penalty, Ohio State punted (more on that later). Martell re-entered the game midway through the fourth quarter with Ohio State leading 19-6 and looking to sweep the leg. The Buckeyes had the ball 1st-and-10 at the Michigan State 21-yard line. Martell ran three read-options (all hand-offs to Mike Weber) that got the ball down to the Michigan State 4-yard line. On third down, Martell fumbled a snap from Michael Jordan and Sparty recovered. The snap was admittedly bad, but Martell had a good chance to recover. It appeared that Martell tried to pick up the ball and make a play when simply falling on it would've been the only right move. A field goal would've given Ohio State a nearly insurmountable 16-point lead, and the extra play would've allowed the Buckeyes to run another 40 valuable seconds off the clock. After the fumble, Martell's day was over.
3. Mike Weber had the kind of game that would've made Woody Hayes proud: 22 carries for 104 yards (4.7 average) and a touchdown. Weber had 14 of his carries in the 4th quarter, gaining 56 yards, converting a pair of crucial first downs, bleeding lots of valuable time off the clock, and scoring the game-clinching touchdown with 1:12 remaining in the game. Not a pretty performance, but Weber's ability to keep the chains moving and the clock running in crunch time was a big key to the victory.
4. Tight end Rashod Berry had two catches for 26 yards. Both receptions came in the 4th quarter, and each converted a first down.
5. True freshman wide receiver Chris Olave entered the game with 2 receptions for 19 yards. Against Sparty, Olave caught 2 passes for 41 yards, including the long reception of the game for Ohio State (25 yards).
6. Parris Campbell had 6 receptions for 42 yards. On the season, Campbell has 62 receptions, which is the 7th best single season in Ohio State history.
7. The defense played arguably its best game of the season, holding Michigan State to 6 points and 274 total yards, while forcing three turnovers (all in the second half). After allowing the obligatory huge gain (a 47-yard run by back-up QB Rocky Lombardi) and getting burned on a trick play TD (called back due to a Sparty penalty), the defense gave up a field goal to cut the Buckeye lead to 7-6. That occurred with 5:35 left in the third quarter. Over the rest of the game, Sparty ran 23 plays for a net of 49 yards (2.1 average); completed just 4 of 18 passes (.222) with an interception; ran five times for -13 yards; and fumbled twice, including once in the end zone that resulted in a Buckeye touchdown. Yes Sparty's offense is terrible, but that was a lock-down defensive performance in the clutch.
8. Dre'Mont Jones recovered a fumble in the end zone for a touchdown. Earlier in the year (against TCU), Jones had a 28-yard pick six. Jones became the first Buckeye defender to return both a fumble and an interception for a touchdown in the same season since Vonn Bell in 2015.
9. Drue Chrisman began his game with a 4-yard punt that set Sparty up with a very short field; fortunately, the inept Sparty offense couldn't do anything with their golden opportunity. After that mulligan, Chrisman had 8 punts for 336 yards (42.0 average), and downed 5 punts inside the Michigan State 6-yard line. With the Buckeyes leading 7-6 with 56 seconds left in the 3rd quarter, Chrisman buried Sparty at their own 1-yard line; after three straight incompletions, Sparty took a safety. Chrisman's next punt pinned Sparty at their own 2-yard line with 14:12 left in the game; on the very next play, Sparty fumbled in the end zone, which the Buckeyes recovered for a touchdown. In essence, Chrisman was responsible for 9 of Ohio State's 26 points.
10. On the other side of the special teams coin, kicker Blake Haubeil continued the Ohio State tradition of missing field goals of 40+ yards.
11. Does Mark Dantonio's intentional safety count as a stupid two-point conversion?
1. Dwayne Haskins had, for him, a lousy game, completing just 24 of 39 passes (.615) for 227 yards and a TD. Haskins had only two completions of 20+ yards and missed several wide open receivers on easy throws. Of course, the wide receivers contributed a couple of key drops, but the lack of success in the passing game yesterday rests largely on Haskins's shoulders.
2. The Tate Martell experiment had mixed results, mostly negative. Martell first entered the game with Ohio State facing a 4th-and-1 at the Michigan State 35-yard line with about a minute left in the third quarter. The Buckeyes promptly committed a false start penalty when Martell and center Michael Jordan couldn't get on the same page regarding the snap. After the penalty, Ohio State punted (more on that later). Martell re-entered the game midway through the fourth quarter with Ohio State leading 19-6 and looking to sweep the leg. The Buckeyes had the ball 1st-and-10 at the Michigan State 21-yard line. Martell ran three read-options (all hand-offs to Mike Weber) that got the ball down to the Michigan State 4-yard line. On third down, Martell fumbled a snap from Michael Jordan and Sparty recovered. The snap was admittedly bad, but Martell had a good chance to recover. It appeared that Martell tried to pick up the ball and make a play when simply falling on it would've been the only right move. A field goal would've given Ohio State a nearly insurmountable 16-point lead, and the extra play would've allowed the Buckeyes to run another 40 valuable seconds off the clock. After the fumble, Martell's day was over.
3. Mike Weber had the kind of game that would've made Woody Hayes proud: 22 carries for 104 yards (4.7 average) and a touchdown. Weber had 14 of his carries in the 4th quarter, gaining 56 yards, converting a pair of crucial first downs, bleeding lots of valuable time off the clock, and scoring the game-clinching touchdown with 1:12 remaining in the game. Not a pretty performance, but Weber's ability to keep the chains moving and the clock running in crunch time was a big key to the victory.
4. Tight end Rashod Berry had two catches for 26 yards. Both receptions came in the 4th quarter, and each converted a first down.
5. True freshman wide receiver Chris Olave entered the game with 2 receptions for 19 yards. Against Sparty, Olave caught 2 passes for 41 yards, including the long reception of the game for Ohio State (25 yards).
6. Parris Campbell had 6 receptions for 42 yards. On the season, Campbell has 62 receptions, which is the 7th best single season in Ohio State history.
7. The defense played arguably its best game of the season, holding Michigan State to 6 points and 274 total yards, while forcing three turnovers (all in the second half). After allowing the obligatory huge gain (a 47-yard run by back-up QB Rocky Lombardi) and getting burned on a trick play TD (called back due to a Sparty penalty), the defense gave up a field goal to cut the Buckeye lead to 7-6. That occurred with 5:35 left in the third quarter. Over the rest of the game, Sparty ran 23 plays for a net of 49 yards (2.1 average); completed just 4 of 18 passes (.222) with an interception; ran five times for -13 yards; and fumbled twice, including once in the end zone that resulted in a Buckeye touchdown. Yes Sparty's offense is terrible, but that was a lock-down defensive performance in the clutch.
8. Dre'Mont Jones recovered a fumble in the end zone for a touchdown. Earlier in the year (against TCU), Jones had a 28-yard pick six. Jones became the first Buckeye defender to return both a fumble and an interception for a touchdown in the same season since Vonn Bell in 2015.
9. Drue Chrisman began his game with a 4-yard punt that set Sparty up with a very short field; fortunately, the inept Sparty offense couldn't do anything with their golden opportunity. After that mulligan, Chrisman had 8 punts for 336 yards (42.0 average), and downed 5 punts inside the Michigan State 6-yard line. With the Buckeyes leading 7-6 with 56 seconds left in the 3rd quarter, Chrisman buried Sparty at their own 1-yard line; after three straight incompletions, Sparty took a safety. Chrisman's next punt pinned Sparty at their own 2-yard line with 14:12 left in the game; on the very next play, Sparty fumbled in the end zone, which the Buckeyes recovered for a touchdown. In essence, Chrisman was responsible for 9 of Ohio State's 26 points.
10. On the other side of the special teams coin, kicker Blake Haubeil continued the Ohio State tradition of missing field goals of 40+ yards.
11. Does Mark Dantonio's intentional safety count as a stupid two-point conversion?
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Wells4Heisman
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You're right, I'm just frustrated with our potential. I apologize if I come off as hostile, not meant at all.
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Telekinesis
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Nope, no need. I completely agree that they aren’t playing up to their potential. This offense has the ability to be lethal, they just seem to be shooting themselves in the foot as of late.
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Martell's sin was trying to pick up a fumble instead of just falling on it.
It was on the ground due to an errant shotgun snap. Martell barely got a hand on it so that means it missed the target by about 5-6 ft.
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well played
Telekinesis
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I think another thing is that people forget the opportunities Tate had earlier in the year that usually resulted in drives stalling out once Haskins was pulled.
I like Tate, just don’t think he’s the answer to the offensive woes. I think changing the scheme in the red zone has helped a lot, but the passing game suffered from some big dropped balls as well yesterday.
Haskins had some bad throws as well, but that’s rare for him, honestly.
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I want to rewatch it today but in real time I thought I saw a lot of positives when he came in. Instantly took away the extra defender and (I think) you could see the difference.
I lived in FL when Meyer took that very underwhelming 2006 team into the NC game against the unbeatable team that year.
I really like the idea of a Tebow package in short yardage and goal line. It's fine to know it's coming, you still have to stop it as a defense and it's difficult because you don't know exactly what's coming.
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I didn't comment on where the snap was or who was responsible.
I said that Martell had a good chance to recover the ball. Instead of simply falling on the ball and taking a loss, he tried to make a play. That "hero" move cost Ohio State 3 points and 40 seconds of game clock. It was a bad football play by Martell.
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For sure. I just disagree that Martell is responsible for both those drives being killed.
Is Haskins at fault for all the other false starts?
And im in no way in the "Martell must play" camp. I just see that it's a set that was successful in a specific role until other things, that have nothing to do with Martell or the setup and have plagued us all season, killed it.
Uhhh... sure you didnt.
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Telekinesis
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This is inaccurate. Go back and watch the film.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
Another case of the well known situation of the most popular guy on campus is the backup QB.
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