Both are from over 40 years ago from my time in Japan. One of them has quit rooting for the Pedsters because of the Sandusky incident (or whatever you want to call it)...
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ScriptOhio
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Just sayin': Victor's catch had a bigger contribution to the game's final outcome and his "yards after catch" was obviously better than the "yac" on Johnson's catch; however, this was the best "pure" catch in the game:
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ScriptOhio
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SKULL SESSION: PENN STATE'S FOURTH DOWN PLAY CALL, DWAYNE HASKINS AND JOE BURROW DOMINATE, PENN STATE'S CREATIVE USE OF HELICOPTERS
PLAY CALL, EXPLAINED. If you were like the the rest of football-watching America, Penn State's fourth-down play call probably perplexed the hell out of you. Thankfully, offensive coordinator Ricky Rahne explained his thought process to everyone on Monday.
From APNews.com:
“I was upset with (the play call) because there was a particular thing that I should have foreseen and I didn’t,” Rahne told The Associated Press. “I should have foreseen one other thing, and I didn’t. That made it a little bit more difficult than I thought it was going to be.”
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Rahne said Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano was using a defensive front the Buckeyes normally use to rush the passer on the final play. Rahne said that while the inside-zone run did not have a lot of success overall against the Buckeyes, it did against those types of defensive fronts. Rahne recalled two similar long-yardage downs when Sanders picked up good gains, including 12 yards on a third-and-13 in the third quarter.
“So that was the thought process that went into it,” said Rahne said. “I felt like we had a good chance to run the ball and split it right up the hash. I went back and watched the tape. Is there a possibility for that? Yeah, maybe, but ultimately I didn’t give our guys the best chance to succeed.”
Rahne would not say specifically what Ohio State did that he failed to anticipate.
If there's one thing you need to know about me, it's that my opinions are always subject to change based on new information and thoughtful consideration.
Folks, I need to announce an opinion change.
I no longer think this was an atrocious play call, I just think Ohio State defensive play call was better, and so was the execution.
From how Urban Meyer and Dre'Mont Jones spoke of the play, it sounds like the Buckeyes knew exactly what was coming, and they handled it perfectly.
They knew Penn State was running a zone read, so they overloaded the read side to confuse the offensive line and make the read more difficult, ensuring that Trace McSorley had to hand the ball off.
From there, Jashon Cornell ate the right guard, and Chase Young got inside before the Nittany Lions even completed the handoff. There was never any space inside, and the play was over before it really started.
“On that play, I lost my one-on-one battle with Coach Schiano,” Rahne told the Associated Press.
Entitre article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...dominant-alabama-bettor-penn-state-helicopter
PLAY CALL, EXPLAINED. If you were like the the rest of football-watching America, Penn State's fourth-down play call probably perplexed the hell out of you. Thankfully, offensive coordinator Ricky Rahne explained his thought process to everyone on Monday.
From APNews.com:
“I was upset with (the play call) because there was a particular thing that I should have foreseen and I didn’t,” Rahne told The Associated Press. “I should have foreseen one other thing, and I didn’t. That made it a little bit more difficult than I thought it was going to be.”
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Rahne said Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano was using a defensive front the Buckeyes normally use to rush the passer on the final play. Rahne said that while the inside-zone run did not have a lot of success overall against the Buckeyes, it did against those types of defensive fronts. Rahne recalled two similar long-yardage downs when Sanders picked up good gains, including 12 yards on a third-and-13 in the third quarter.
“So that was the thought process that went into it,” said Rahne said. “I felt like we had a good chance to run the ball and split it right up the hash. I went back and watched the tape. Is there a possibility for that? Yeah, maybe, but ultimately I didn’t give our guys the best chance to succeed.”
Rahne would not say specifically what Ohio State did that he failed to anticipate.
If there's one thing you need to know about me, it's that my opinions are always subject to change based on new information and thoughtful consideration.
Folks, I need to announce an opinion change.
I no longer think this was an atrocious play call, I just think Ohio State defensive play call was better, and so was the execution.
From how Urban Meyer and Dre'Mont Jones spoke of the play, it sounds like the Buckeyes knew exactly what was coming, and they handled it perfectly.
They knew Penn State was running a zone read, so they overloaded the read side to confuse the offensive line and make the read more difficult, ensuring that Trace McSorley had to hand the ball off.
From there, Jashon Cornell ate the right guard, and Chase Young got inside before the Nittany Lions even completed the handoff. There was never any space inside, and the play was over before it really started.
“On that play, I lost my one-on-one battle with Coach Schiano,” Rahne told the Associated Press.
Entitre article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...dominant-alabama-bettor-penn-state-helicopter
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Taosman
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Ohio State has done the (almost) impossible the last 2 years with Ped State. The have come from behind twice by double digits in the closing minutes against Ped State, defying all odds. So, there must be a logical reason for this. I believe it's coaching. We have better coaches than them. In other words.
They are not "elite".
They are not "elite".
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ScriptOhio
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SKULL SESSION: PENN STATE'S FOURTH DOWN PLAY CALL, DWAYNE HASKINS AND JOE BURROW DOMINATE, PENN STATE'S CREATIVE USE OF HELICOPTERS
HELICOPTER BREAKS UP TAILGATE. As a five-year college student at one of the biggest universities in the country, I've seen some creative crowd control in my day and know what lengths campus police will go to in order to quell a crowd.
Hell, the Ohio State Police Department even has an armored military vehicle at its disposal if shit gets really wild. But I've never seen anything like Penn State Police using the wind from a helicopter's rotors to disperse a large tailgate ahead of Saturday's big game.
Apparently, there was a large tailgate that turned unruly, resulting in the assault of two State Police horses and injuring an officer. So the police turned to a helicopter to solve the problem.
Here is a full statement on the incident issued by Penn State Police:
“We understand concerns have been raised regarding police activity during tailgate celebrations in one lot, in advance of the Penn State vs. Ohio State game on Saturday (Sept. 29). University Police wishes to reassure fans that officers were responding to the circumstances on the ground, which involved numerous law violations, including serious threats to officer safety within a disorderly crowd. Unruly individuals refused to disperse following verbal commands and at least one officer suffered injuries. It is rare to resort to these expanded interventions; however, when all other warnings from the mounted police unit and officers on the ground were ignored, a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter was deployed as another tool to compel the group to disperse and curb dangerous and unruly behavior. Following the use of the helicopter, the dangerous behaviors dissipated.”
Pennsylvania State Police also issued a statement, saying "a helicopter was utilized to issue commands to disperse via loudspeaker. When personnel on scene noticed the helicopter was low enough to disturb items on the ground, the helicopter pulled up to a higher altitude."
Based on the video, it looks like officers – who have presumably flown a helicopter before and are well aware of the wind rudders create – conveniently made the discovery that they were sending tents, grills and debris flying everywhere after they made a slow pass 30 feet over the entire tailgate.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...dominant-alabama-bettor-penn-state-helicopter
HELICOPTER BREAKS UP TAILGATE. As a five-year college student at one of the biggest universities in the country, I've seen some creative crowd control in my day and know what lengths campus police will go to in order to quell a crowd.
Hell, the Ohio State Police Department even has an armored military vehicle at its disposal if shit gets really wild. But I've never seen anything like Penn State Police using the wind from a helicopter's rotors to disperse a large tailgate ahead of Saturday's big game.
Apparently, there was a large tailgate that turned unruly, resulting in the assault of two State Police horses and injuring an officer. So the police turned to a helicopter to solve the problem.
Here is a full statement on the incident issued by Penn State Police:
“We understand concerns have been raised regarding police activity during tailgate celebrations in one lot, in advance of the Penn State vs. Ohio State game on Saturday (Sept. 29). University Police wishes to reassure fans that officers were responding to the circumstances on the ground, which involved numerous law violations, including serious threats to officer safety within a disorderly crowd. Unruly individuals refused to disperse following verbal commands and at least one officer suffered injuries. It is rare to resort to these expanded interventions; however, when all other warnings from the mounted police unit and officers on the ground were ignored, a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter was deployed as another tool to compel the group to disperse and curb dangerous and unruly behavior. Following the use of the helicopter, the dangerous behaviors dissipated.”
Pennsylvania State Police also issued a statement, saying "a helicopter was utilized to issue commands to disperse via loudspeaker. When personnel on scene noticed the helicopter was low enough to disturb items on the ground, the helicopter pulled up to a higher altitude."
Based on the video, it looks like officers – who have presumably flown a helicopter before and are well aware of the wind rudders create – conveniently made the discovery that they were sending tents, grills and debris flying everywhere after they made a slow pass 30 feet over the entire tailgate.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...dominant-alabama-bettor-penn-state-helicopter
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Stock market report: Ohio State snatches victory from the jaws of defeat
I have no idea how the Buckeyes won that game.
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Well that was certainly something. I don’t know what it was, and have very few ways to even quantify it, but I’m pretty sure it was a football game. A very weird, very broken football game, between two teams that seem to play one of these nonsensical, bizarre football games every time they square off. When Ohio State and Penn State meet, football, at least in the way we know it, usually breaks.
That manifests itself in things like Penn State running an inside zone on 4th-and-5, one of the dumbest calls I’ve ever seen, to lose the game. Let’s stop and break that down for a second. Down by one near midfield, with five yards needed to keep their hopes alive, Penn State decided to run directly into Ohio State’s defensive line, the only competent part of their defense.
They decided to do this after their senior quarterback had spent the entire second half gashing Ohio State’s defense, both through the air and on the ground. Just moments earlier, he’d thrown a dart into the middle of the defense for a big gain. If Trace McSorley is built for anything, he’s built to make a play to extend a drive on 4th&5 from midfield against this Buckeye defense.
The breaking of football also manifests in Ohio State... winning this football game? In the joy of the win, it was easy to forget how utterly stupid it is that Ohio State managed to win a game that they trailed by 12 in with just eight minutes left, and they did it almost exclusively with screen passes. It makes no sense at all. It’s utterly baffling that Ohio State beat Penn State by throwing behind the line of scrimmage 20 times, and by giving the ball to Binjimen Victor and just getting out of his way. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen such a nonsensical football game, and that weirdness makes it very hard to put together a stock market report for it. Let’s try anyway!
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Chase Young, DE: If you’re looking for a single person to declare the most important person for this Buckeye win, I think Chase Young fits that description. He had six total tackles, three for a loss, two sacks, and two deflections, both of which came in huge situations. He sacked Trace McSorley on the final drive that helped set up that final fourth down, and then stuff Miles Sanders to win the game on fourth down.
With no Nick Bosa, Chase Young filled the top five draft pick sized hole perfectly. He dominated Penn State’s tackles all day long, and even with a dumb facemask call, he was easily the best player on Ohio State’s defense today. He looked like a leader, and he looks ready to claim his throne in Bosa’s absence.
Binjimen Victor, WR: He only had two receptions, but it’s hard to underestimate how huge those receptions were. The first, an eight-yard grab, put Ohio State into a manageable 3rd-and-2 on their touchdown drive to start the second half, and his second was, well, you remember it. He snagged a ball thrown well over his head for a first down, broke a tackle, and maneuvered his way to a 47-yard touchdown.
If it wasn’t for that play, Ohio State probably doesn’t win this game. They needed a big play, and that was pretty much their only one of the night. It couldn’t have come at a better time. Binjimen is as talented as anyone on this team, and for him to be getting only a few snaps per game is ridiculous. He needs to be a starter from here out.
J.K. Dobbins, RB: If Chase Young was easily the best player on the defense, J.K. Dobbins was just as easily the best player on the offense. With Penn State loading the box and rushing Dwayne Haskins all night long, the Buckeyes needed a playmaker. Dobbins was just that. He fought for tough yards on the ground and picked up a few big first downs, but surprisingly, his running wasn’t what made him so important.
Dobbins starred as a receiver in this one. Ohio State correctly adjusted in the second half, switching to an offense centered nearly entirely around screens, and while Dobbins had just two catches, they went for 61 yards and a score. The first, the touchdown, was an excellent show of vision and elusiveness, and gave Ohio State the lead in the third quarter. The second may have been even more important, as he kicked the game-winning drive off with a 35 yarder on a screen, and put the Buckeyes in excellent position to score.
Solid investments
K.J. Hill, WR: For the fifth straight week, Ohio State’s most reliable receiver was number 14. Hill had an early drop, but once he settled into the game, he played a huge role in the offense, especially in the second half when the offense went to underneath passes and screens. He’s as sturdy a hand as a receiver can be, and it showed late in the game when he took a screen 24 yards for the game winning score.
Oh, and credit to Terry McLaurin for his beautiful blocking on this play.
Drue Chrisman, P: It feels weird to dedicate a whole paragraph here to a punter, but Drue Chrisman deserves it. His nine punts averaged nearly 48 yards, he put Penn State inside their own 20 three times, and thanks to some excellent coverage, Ohio State’s punting in general was excellent. K.J. Hammler can turn into punt into a touchdown, and Ohio State contained him (on special teams).
Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2...otball-stock-market-report-what-was-that-game
I have no idea which site had the original idea, but one Ohio State site is copying another Ohio State site's "stock report" theme:
STOCK UP/DOWN: BINJIMEN VICTOR'S BIG DAY, CHASE YOUNG'S EMERGENCE AND OHIO STATE DEFENSIVE LINE'S HEALTH
This edition of the weekly Stock Up/Down article had the two players whose stock went up not come through down the stretch of Ohio State's 27-26 win against Penn State on Saturday.
For a while, hope for a Buckeyes' comeback victory seemed futile. With eight minutes remaining in the game and Penn State leading by 12 points, Ohio State's win probability sat at 3.9 percent. A three-play, 75-yard drive put the game within a touchdown, then K.J. Hill's touchdown late in the fourth quarter gave the Buckeyes a one-point lead it held on to through the end of regulation.
Let's begin this week's edition with the player who began Ohio State's come-from-behind win.
STOCK UP
BINJIMEN VICTOR
Where was this for the first two years at Ohio State?
Binjimen Victor made the biggest play of his collegiate career at the biggest possible moment to fill his team's sideline with hope. With his team down 12 points, the lanky 6-foot-4 wideout snagged a pass thrown behind him, shrugged off a defender, avoided a tackler then raced for a 47-yard touchdown to pull the Buckeyes within a touchdown of taking the lead.
In his first two season at Ohio State, Victor primarily worked as a red-zone threat, not as a middle-of-the-field play-making receiver that he showed himself to be on Saturday.
It remains to be seen whether Victor can turn that single catch into a larger role in the offense that he can take advantage of, but there's no one doubting his potential. Few receivers can pull of the catch and run that put the Buckeyes in position to jump-start the comeback attempt. Now, Victor must prove he can produce with consistency that he has not yet shown.
CHASE YOUNG
While Victor entered the Ohio State program needing to gain muscle and weight in order to look like a college football player, Chase Young looked like an NFL player the moment he set foot on campus.
After a year of learning from Larry Johnson while sitting behind Nick Bosa, Jalyn Holmes, Sam Hubbard and Tyquan Lewis, Young finally has a chance to show how dominant of a presence of the edge of a defense he can be. Penn State learned first-hand.
The 6-foot-5, 265-pound end had six tackles, three tackles for loss, two sacks, two hurries and a pair of deflections to knock down certain would-be catches. With Bosa out due to injury, Young has been a focal point of opposing offensive lines. But on Saturday, he showed he can be a force, even with the increased attention.
CHRIS HOLTMANN
Prior to taking the job at the helm of the Ohio State men's basketball program, Chris Holtmann had only ever recruited to schools as a head coach at Butler and Gardner-Webb. Though he pulled in good players at both programs, the question remained whether he could recruit at the level the Buckeyes expected.
After Holtmann's work on Ohio State's 2019 recruiting class, that no longer remains a question. He doesn't just have what it takes to get by, but has re-energized the Buckeyes and began to infuse the program with a much-needed young talent.
Ohio State added four-star forward E.J. Liddell to a class that already ranked No. 1 in the Big Ten. It quickly shot up from No. 13 overall in the nation to No. 4, behind USC, Kentucky and Louisville.
TRACE MCSORLEY
Dwayne Haskins should not have won his third Big Ten Player of the Week honor this week. It's not that he didn't pull it together after a poor first-half performance. He was simply outperformed.
Instead, that should have gone to Trace McSorley, who baffled the Ohio State defense for the majority of the game and managed to accomplish the usually impossible task of push his way in the Heisman Trophy conversation despite his team losing. He accrued 461 total yards, the most in Penn State history.
McSorley went 16-for-32 for 286 yards and a pair of touchdowns, including a 93-yard score to K.J. Hamler. He added a career high of 175 rushing yards on 25 carries. His 51-yard scramble was the longest rush of his career.
Breathe easy, Ohio State fans. You'll never have to see McSorley, a senior, take on the Buckeyes again (unless, of course, both teams make the College Football Playoff, in which case, good luck).
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ergence-and-ohio-state-defensive-lines-health
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A lot of statistics in the article.....
Peaks and Unhappy Valleys — By the Numbers: Ohio State at Penn State
Ohio State and Penn State played another instant classic last Saturday. The Buckeyes overcame their offensive struggles in the first half and mounted one of their better defensive performances to erase a two-touchdown deficit late in the fourth quarter. Here are some of the statistical highlights.
Explosive problems continue…
Penn State was able to gash Ohio State on Saturday with explosive plays. Ten of the Nittany Lions’ 76 offensive plays gained 15 yards or more. Those 10 plays also accounted for 336 of the 492 total yards gained (68.3%). Among the gains were four plays which hit for more than 30 yards. There were 3 passes which went for 31, 36, and 93 yards and a QB run which gained 51 yards.
This remains an ongoing concern for the Ohio State fan base. Explosive plays lead to points. Penn State had 17 possessions last Saturday. Of those, 11 drives resulted in either a punt, turnover on downs, or a turnover. There were three total explosive plays in those 11 drives. The other seven explosive plays occurred when Penn State scored touchdowns or kicked a field goal attempt.
Going forward, it remains critical to find ways to limit those big gains by OSU’s opponents.
Explosive but not efficient….
One of the five factors to winning a football game is measuring explosiveness. And the most basic way to do that is to calculate yards per play. Penn State won that battle on Saturday thanks in part to those big gainers. Overall Penn State averaged 6.5 yards per play and Ohio State just 5.1.
But Penn State lost the efficiency battle. Their success rate for the game was 30.3% compared to Ohio State’s 38.3%. Here is a side by side comparison of the two offenses for each down.
Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/10/peaks-ohio-state-penn-state/
Peaks and Unhappy Valleys — By the Numbers: Ohio State at Penn State
Ohio State and Penn State played another instant classic last Saturday. The Buckeyes overcame their offensive struggles in the first half and mounted one of their better defensive performances to erase a two-touchdown deficit late in the fourth quarter. Here are some of the statistical highlights.
Explosive problems continue…
Penn State was able to gash Ohio State on Saturday with explosive plays. Ten of the Nittany Lions’ 76 offensive plays gained 15 yards or more. Those 10 plays also accounted for 336 of the 492 total yards gained (68.3%). Among the gains were four plays which hit for more than 30 yards. There were 3 passes which went for 31, 36, and 93 yards and a QB run which gained 51 yards.
This remains an ongoing concern for the Ohio State fan base. Explosive plays lead to points. Penn State had 17 possessions last Saturday. Of those, 11 drives resulted in either a punt, turnover on downs, or a turnover. There were three total explosive plays in those 11 drives. The other seven explosive plays occurred when Penn State scored touchdowns or kicked a field goal attempt.
Going forward, it remains critical to find ways to limit those big gains by OSU’s opponents.
Explosive but not efficient….
One of the five factors to winning a football game is measuring explosiveness. And the most basic way to do that is to calculate yards per play. Penn State won that battle on Saturday thanks in part to those big gainers. Overall Penn State averaged 6.5 yards per play and Ohio State just 5.1.
But Penn State lost the efficiency battle. Their success rate for the game was 30.3% compared to Ohio State’s 38.3%. Here is a side by side comparison of the two offenses for each down.
Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/10/peaks-ohio-state-penn-state/
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In 2005 we were talking to a cop who told us he hoped we won, because he didn't want to have to deal with the aftermath.
But no......Penn State fans are basically the same as Nebraska's reputation.
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