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Misc Ohio State v. Michigan - A Significant Gap

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by Buckeyeskickbuttocks, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    I think they'd be fine if they brought in a Paul Chryst clone for 1/4 the cost and stopped trying to recruit like Ohio State.
     
  2. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    I think they were walk on players that were awarded scholarships last season. In any event, the did not have a 247 rating.
     
  3. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    @LordJeffBuck Those charts turned out very pretty indeed! Thanks! Loved the additional analysis as well.
     
  4. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun

    still, they have a rating as high as I do

    seriously
     
  5. sparcboxbuck

    sparcboxbuck What happened to my ¤cash?

    Was Walker dismissed? Last I saw on S&M it looked like he didn’t get booted. Meh, probably on his way out the door anyhow...
     
  6. jwinslow

    jwinslow more than the drops in the ocean Staff Member

    It was rumored that he was dismissed (for his 4th team rules violation in 2 years), but his HS took to twitter to refute this. So who knows, but the real problem is he still isn't good at running the football.
     
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  7. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Some further analysis (with pretty charts).

    Comparing each team's 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th, and 60th best recruits (using 247 Composite scores x100):

    Recruit No.Ohio StateMichiganDifference
    1098.5196.262.25
    2097.3994.353.04
    3096.0791.844.23
    4094.5489.545.00
    5093.2288.604.62
    6091.3287.154.17

    Comparing each team's recruits in groups of ten, with the final group containing 15 recruits for Ohio State and 14 recruits for Michigan. I have not counted Ohio State's four specialists nor Michigan's two specialist and two walk-on (non-rated) recruits. For each group, I have used the average 247 Composite scores x100.

    Recruit GroupOhio StateMichiganDifference
    01-1099.1798.091.08
    11-2097.8494.912.93
    21-3096.5692.783.78
    31-4095.2990.374.92
    41-5093.8989.154.74
    51-6092.1987.724.47
    61-7090.1186.483.63
    71 +86.5884.711.86
    TOTAL93.5290.702.82

    Ohio State's average recruit (93.52) would be Michigan's #23 actual recruit, just behind Nico Collins (93.78). Michigan's average recruit (90.70) would be Ohio State's #63 actual recruit, just ahead of Terry McLaurin (90.51).

    Ohio State's highs are higher than Michigan's, and Michigan's lows are lower than Ohio State's. But the greatest difference is in the middle, roughly recruits 31-60 (and especially 31-40), which is where teams will get the depth necessary to allow for rotations and overcome injuries. Michigan can certainly field a starting 22 similar in talent to Ohio State, but when Michigan loses a player to injury (Tarik Black in 2017) they can't replace him. Also look how Michigan finished games against their toughest opponents last year (Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin) - they were gassed due to lack of depth and so they quit.

    Good teams have a few great players. Great teams have a few great players and tons of depth. Championship teams have lots of great players and tons of depth. Michigan has a long way to go to get from "good team" to "championship contender". Ohio State is already there and has been ever since Urban Meyer arrived in Columbus.
     
  8. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    Great analysis! Deeply shows why scUM is failing on the field, and the talent gap doesn't look to be closing anytime soon
    o-CHEERS-LEONARDO-DICAPRIO-570.jpg
     
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  9. CFPBuckeye

    CFPBuckeye Turned down a Harbaugh sleepover

    @Everyone,

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  10. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    I don't think the DFBIA would take our analysis seriously anyway. Hairball doesn't recruit for stars, because they don't matter... :confused:
     
  11. CFPBuckeye

    CFPBuckeye Turned down a Harbaugh sleepover

    But the noise from everywhere else outside of DFBIAville could eventually get noticed. This isn’t a BP exclusive. It’s pretty basic fact that we need to go swept under the rug for as long as gloriously possible.

    Harbaugh is great! Wins for the win! Eleventy championships on the horizon!

    Just wait. You’ll see.
     
  12. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Hey they put up with "speed is overrated" why wouldn't they buy some other nonsense
     
  13. JCOSU86

    JCOSU86 Go Bucks! Staff Member

    I warmed up for reading this by reading War and Peace.
     
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  14. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Still ruining the internet, I see.
     
  15. BigJim

    BigJim Senior

    Where's that chart that someone used to post in I think the ttun news thread, plotted scUM vs OSU active rosters by recruiting ranking? It basically summarizes this thread in one chart.
     

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