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Game Thread Ohio State vs Cincinnati - 09/07/19, 12:00PM (ABC)

Discussion in '2019 Football Season Capsule' started by Dryden, May 30, 2019.

  1. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

  2. LovelandBuckeye

    LovelandBuckeye You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM

  3. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.


    . Luke Fickell and his Cincinnati Bearcats come up I-71 to Columbus early in the season to give Ryan Day a warm welcome to Ohio football, and even though the Bearcats are far from the best team the Buckeyes will play this year, maybe Ohio State should be at least a little concerned.

    Dan Murphy of ESPN has that game as the one the Buckeyes should beware heading into the season.

    5. Ohio State: Sept. 7 vs. Cincinnati

    Are the Bearcats the toughest team on Ohio State's schedule? No. But former Buckeye Luke Fickell will still have more head-coaching appearances in the Horseshoe than Ryan Day when this game kicks off. Fickell will be bringing a very solid group with him to try to upset a young Ohio State team that has a lot to figure out before this legitimate test early in September.

    I'm really puzzled by this choice, mostly because there's almost no real rationale other than "Luke Fickell coached in that stadium before Ryan Day!" – which is undeniably true, but he also went 6-7 that season, so let's not assume that means anything at all.

    Cincinnati is a much better team than I think people are giving credit, so I definitely don't mean any disrespect but still, this is really your "watch out!" game? Not the early road test against a fiery Nebraska team with a trendy Heisman pick at quarterback? Or the the road game against a young Northwestern team that gave the Buckeyes a game in December? Hell, I might be afraid of Deondre Francois and the fighting Lane Kiffins before Cincinnati.

    The Bearcats have a legitimately good defense, but I'm just not sold that they match up well with Ohio State. The teams that had success against the Buckeyes last year were the teams with high-powered offenses going against that train wreck of a defense.

    The teams that leaned on defense and couldn't score (*cough* *cough* Michigan *cough* *cough*) had mostly no chance even if the game appeared kinda close.

    But maybe everything's different this year, who knows?

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  4. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    With Brian Kelly at the helm, who built upon a foundation started by Mark Dantonio, the Bearcats won back-to-back Big East titles in 2008 and 2009, reaching the Orange and Sugar Bowls while losing just two regular season games in as many seasons. Kelly's successor, Butch Jones, quickly rebounded after an initial 4-8 campaign in 2010 to post a pair of 10-win seasons himself before bolting to Tennessee.

    Not since Sid Gillman led the program in 1951 had UC won ten games in a season and all of a sudden they did so four times in the matter of five years. But Tommy Tuberville couldn't continue the momentum through conference realignment, and the Bearcats went 4-8 in 2016, his last of four years in charge.

    Luke Fickell needs to introduction among Buckeye fans. Years of service under a pair of title-winning bosses could have made him the heir-apparent in Columbus. But after 15 years as an assistant, the former Ohio State captain made the trek down I-71 to take his turn as a true head coach, able to lead a program as he desires.

    In just two years, Fickell seems to have already left his mark. After a tough 4-8 first season in 2017, UC went 11-2 last fall. Their only losses came in a close, turnover-filled, defensive slugfest with Temple and during a November trip to Orlando in which they were outplayed by conference champion UCF in front of the College Gameday crew on national TV.

    Though the latter left many thinking the Bearcats still weren't ready for primetime, all other indicators point the other way, as Fickell and one of his former pupils have quickly assembled one of the nation's best defenses. Cincinnati ranked ninth nationally in total defense last fall, allowing just 303 yards-per-game, while the advanced stats liked them even more, ranking sixth in rushing marginal efficiency and first in completion rate allowed.

    Now, after never getting the chance to even interview for the head role at his alma mater, Fickell will get the chance to show Gene Smith and 105,000 or so spectators what they passed on during a week-two matchup in the Horseshoe. Though many Buckeye fans have decried the 2019 schedule as being without any signature out-of-conference opponents, this in-state clash has all the makings of a potential 'trap' game on September 7th.

    The Bearcats began their 2018 campaign by holding Chip Kelly's UCLA offense to just 350 yards during a to the Rose Bowl and followed it up by stifling nearly the entire American Athletic Conference. Even in their 38-13 loss to UCF, the Knights were held to a regular-season low 402 yards, as three Bearcat turnovers tipped the game toward the home favorites.

    While Fickell certainly played a major role in this defensive revival, former Buckeye linebacker and captain Marcus Freeman is in charge of the unit on a daily basis. After spending six seasons working for another former Buckeye assistant, Darrell Hazell, Freeman was given his first shot as a coordinator by his former position coach.

    Today, despite both players learning the ropes in strict 4-3 systems, the Bearcats would best be described as 'Multiple' under Freeman and Fickell. Lining up with two big tackles inside, a stout strong-side end and a standup, hybrid Jack linebacker, UC can seamlessly switch between odd and even fronts from play-to-play.

    Despite a lack of recruiting stars, this group was the bedrock of the entire team last fall. Seniors Kimoni Fitz, Cortez Broughton, and Marquise Copeland combined for 152 tackles in 2018, a total which, by comparison, was only last matched by a trio of D-linemen in Columbus in 2015 when Tyquan Lewis, Joey Bosa, and Adolphus Washington tallied 154.

    Fickell and Freeman cycled through a deep rotation up front, allowing their wrecking crew to not only stay fresh but give valuable experience to younger players. When the seniors were in the game, however, they were incredibly disruptive (as seen from Copeland #44 below).


    But the Bearcat front wasn't just a group of wild penetrators, as they proved quite capable of occupying blocks to allow their linebackers the freedom to track the ball. As seen below, both tackles force double-teams while inside linebackers Byran Wright (#11) and Jarell White (#8) use those space-eaters like shields while they maintain inside and outside leverage (respectively) on the back in this outside zone run.


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  5. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    Legend has it that since Columbus arrived in 1492, Cincinnati fans have been talking about how Ohio State just isn't really that good.

    I work at Kroger. Skyline Chili is great. The first thing I tell people when I meet them is where I went to high school (Sycamore class of 2017!)

    My whole life spent in the 513, I feel like I am the best person to break this news: the UC fans are back again, everyone.

    In fun fashion, start it off by saying that if UC beats OSU by 29, I'll print out this article and eat it.

    Stats: Ohio State and Cincinnati have played 16 times, with the Buckeyes winning 14 of the games. The last time Cincinnati won was in 1897, with the Bearcats taking both of the first two games.

    So many times, Ohio State has been reluctant to schedule Cincinnati in years past. There have been a combination of reasons why: it doesn't make much sense for the Buckeyes. With the Bearcats not exactly being a powerhouse for most of their existence, a Buckeyes win wouldn't move the needle very much. In addition, if Ohio State loses the game, all the talk will be about how the Buckeyes aren't the dominant team in their own state anymore.

    Yes, the talk hasn't stopped this year. After the conclusion of March Madness, which saw Cincinnati get upset once again in the first round and then have their coach leave for UCLA, the focus switched back to football.

    Ohio State will enter the game with a new head coach, Ryan Day. Luke Fickell has certainly jumpstarted the UC program which was on a heavy downswing leading to the firing of Tommy Tuberville. Fickell went 10-2 last season, and returns a wealth of talent that should have Cincinnati right in the thick of things in the AAC.

    Understandably, the last two times these two teams played. Cincinnati fans were somewhat confident. Ohio State had just come off a slim win over Navy and a loss to Virginia Tech.The Buckeyes then beat Kent State 66-0, but the Golden Flashes were terrible. They won one game all year. Cincinnati was flying high with former five-star Gunner Kiel. The Buckeyes won the by three touchdowns, scoring 50 points and continuing the run that led them to a championship.

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    I wouldn't call this a "trap game"; but the Bearcraps WILL show up "ready to play". We better not take them for granted and show up "ready to play" too.
  6. LovelandBuckeye

    LovelandBuckeye You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM

    The bulletin board material will be plenty I am sure. Ohio's bCs team can EABOD.
  7. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Just a matter of when, not if, they'd start this bullshit.

    Wouldn't be summer time without some MAC smack.
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  8. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.


    Far from the most imposing game on the schedule, but the Bearcats are coming off an 11-win campaign and a top-25 finish in what was Luke Fickell's second season at the helm. Ohio State's rushing defense was not good a season ago and that's an area of strength for Cincinnati. Quarterback Desmond Ridder is a dual-threat and was the AAC's Newcomer of the Year in 2018. Tailback Michael Warren II rushed for over 1,300 yards and 19 scores as a sophomore.

    Fickell also had the Bearcats No. 11 nationally in total defense last season, though they've lost nearly their entire defensive line. The Buckeyes get Florida Atlantic first, but a matchup with Cincinnati isn't the most ideal scenario for the second week of the season. This should give us an idea of how much the linebackers have improved under Al Washington.
  9. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    12. Miami OH
    11. Florida Atlantic
    10. at Rutgers
    9. Maryland
    8. at Indiana
    7. Penn State
    6. Wisconsin
    5. Cincinnati

    4. Michigan State
    3. at Northwestern
    2. at Nebraska
    1. at Michigan

    This O-Zone reporter thinks the Bearcraps will be tougher game than Wisky & Ped State.

  10. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.


    Ohio State won't face a lot of elite quarterbacks this fall.

    In years past, the Buckeyes have had to defend the likes of Trace McSorley, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold and Deshaun Watson. The latter two came in postseason games, so there's a strong chance a matchup like that could exist for Ohio State down the road.

    But looking at the regular season slate, there aren't a lot of names that could turn the heads of most fans. Here's a look at the most dangerous quarterbacks the Buckeyes face this fall.

    Desmond Ridder was a bit of a surprise for Luke Fickell's squad last season. He started the season on the bench as a backup, but after starter Hayden Moore struggled in the season opener against UCLA, Ridder came in and led the Bearcats to a come-from-behind 26-17 win.

    The redshirt freshman started every game for the rest of the year, and he thrived. A dangerous dual-threat, Ridder threw for 2,455 yards and added 572 yards on the ground. He completed 62.5 percent of his passes with 25 total touchdowns against just five interceptions in 2018.

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  11. brodybuck21

    brodybuck21 THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Staff Member Fantasy Baseball Champ

    bUCkeye state week....
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  12. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    hard to contain my enthusiasm
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  13. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    I suspect part of our post Qtr 1 complacency was to not show Cinci much of the repertoire
    but Cinci may have had to show/use a bunch to get their win
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  14. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Fick and Freeman are going to throw a lot at a very inexperienced QB and OL.

    The 2014 VT comparisons will be flying around all week (and probably should be).
  15. Drubuck

    Drubuck What time is it?

    Pumped for this one!!

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