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Game Thread Ohio State vs Nebraska, 11/05/16, 8:00pm ET ABC

Discussion in '2016 Football Season Capsule' started by Dryden, May 2, 2016.

  1. UrbanBuckeye

    UrbanBuckeye Senior '18 Upset Picks Winner

    Quite frankly, from what I saw last night and the minimal time Burrows has been on the field, I agree. To a point. I think one person on here said a week or so back, one of the reasons we were so successful in the 2014 post-season was due to the fact we were forced to put in Cardale Jones- a player no one had damn near studied at all. However, we aren't in that position and Burrows isn't as unique as Jones (in that he's not able to literally jump over other players).

    That being said, November is probably the worst time to have a QB controversy. But, I don't see why, if we're up more than 4-5 TDs next week, we shouldn't put Burrows in. See what the guy can do. Granted, playing MD isn't exactly playing TTUN. But, he sure did hold up well against a good Nebraska D. Switching Jones and JT was a huge mistake last year. If we want to confuse our opponents, we need to keep throwing new plays (and even players) at them. It makes for a dynamic O....that is if it works.
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  2. Hstead

    Hstead Senior

    Yeah I am the last guy that wants to see a QB controversy and am not calling for Joe to be the starter by any means. However, God forbid JT get injured, I think we will be more than fine. It is just my opinion that Joe reads the defense faster, better, and is more accurate.
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  3. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Samuel will play on sundays. Brown may. McLaurin, Clark, Dixon, Campbell, Smith are not safe bets. Of that group, I think Terry will be pretty decent with Burrow.

    Mack and Victor are too early to judge. Victor really needs a QB who knows how to use his size. Barrett's deep ball and jump ball accuracy and timing are pretty weak.

    edit: Hill has looked good. No idea why he was left out before
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2016
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  4. Hstead

    Hstead Senior

    I think Campbell will be a no doubter and most likely Baugh will as well. I expect Campbell to do things Samuel is doing next year. KJ Hill is pretty dang good too.
  5. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Not sure why I left out Hill. I think he's quite good and am glad to finally see him emerge. I wish they weren't treating him like an h-back on a team with literally 1 WR they can rely upon (partially due to JT).

    Campbell is very fast but not that elusive or creative with the ball. His hands were very rough when he got here. They've been upgraded to decent.

    I like the next wave of WRs (Hill, Mack, Victor, Grimes, Lindsey, ?). I'm not sure the veteran group is that good.

    What I meant to say is that I think the veterans are a bit average by OSU standards but they're open enough to make plays. Barrett is woeful at hitting his WRs in stride on deep balls and also places the ball poorly on jump balls (either deep or in the redzone).
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  6. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    First off, glad that Tommy Armstrong is OK.

    On the game ... I'll just echo Urban: WOW, I didn't see that one coming.

    More from Urban post game> What is it about this sport that you couldn't see this coming? Why is it that they would play that way and you wouldn't know?: 18 years old, 19 years old, and this game is college football. I saw Texas A&M lose to Mississippi State. I was actually watching part of that, and I just thought, we've all been around this sport long enough that the youth, when that youth grows up it's kind of cool to watch. And I'm hoping that's what's happening here. I'm not saying it is yet, because we've still got a lot left.

    I kind of still have the same impression of this team ... they are young but talented. Keep getting the feeling that they play differently when the momentum is on their side and the positive vibes are flowing. The early pick 6 did tons for my confidence and I assume for the bucks as well. Hoping they are to the point where they can play to their full potential even when things like momentum and score aren't going their way in a game. Whatever, outside of the injury to Armstrong, that was a fun game to watch! Go Bucks!
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  7. gmen6981

    gmen6981 Div 1 Couch Tackling Champion.

    We need a rock.
  8. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    And a hill
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  9. redguard117

    redguard117 Senior

    The majority of D1 players find, upon entering a collegiate weight program, that they put on 20-30 (or more) lbs of muscle. This increase in strength, mass and basal muscle tone often incurs a decrease in flexibility; altogether, the end result is that the player's throwing velocity, angle, and release point may all be affected.

    During this time, it is critical that the QB coach reinforces proper mechanics, and helps the player appropriately reconcile his throwing motion with his new strength and flexibility.

    How is this relevant to our now 3rd year QB? After he injured his ankle, JT was limited to upper body workouts only, and likely put on some solid mass. If this was not properly addressed with regards to mechanics, it seems to me like it could definitely have an effect on his accuracy - especially on the deep ball, where even slight inaccuracy is magnified.

    At the end of the day, I'm not qualified to say if Beck is or is not the reason for JT's seeming regression/failure to develop. Urban is a much better judge than I am. However, I also don't think it's purely a coincidence that both Taylor Martinez and JT have exhibited a puzzling decrease in mechanics and accuracy over the course of their careers.
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2016
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  10. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    It's up to the S&C folks to encourage/make sure the players do proper stretching. I've seen several body-builder types who still were flexible as hell because they always incorporated stretching into their workouts.
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  11. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    This guy thinks that's a great idea...

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  12. Tanner

    Tanner Senior

    Thank you Mr. Buckdubbs. I got into an argument with the little lady in the middle of the 3rd and the game was turned off against my will, never to be turned on again :lol:
  13. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

  14. redguard117

    redguard117 Senior

    Flexibility is definitely a S&C issue, but throwing mechanics will be impacted regardless of if you increase your flexibility or not.

    Our bones are levers, our joints are the fulcrums, and our muscles provide the force that enables them to move. When you change the mass and force on one lever (by increasing muscle mass and strength), there will absolutely be a change in your mechanics unless there is a compensatory change in the neural networks that control it.

    I used to Olympic lift, and many of people I lifted with were insanely huge and flexible. However, because of their increase in mass over time, they had to adjust their mechanics over time as well - e.g. change their catch position or depth on the snatch, etc.

    It's the same for someone who has to throw a football 50+ mph at a moving target 40 yards away. Even slight changes in mass and weight balance will have a significant effect on accuracy and mechanics. That's why a good QB coach needs to ensure proper mechanics over time.
  15. gmen6981

    gmen6981 Div 1 Couch Tackling Champion.

    Lots of good divorce attorneys out there.......just sayin'

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