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Game Thread Ohio State vs TCU (Arlington, TX) - 09/15/18, 8:00PM (ABC)

Observations:
TCU is a really good team. Will win a lot of games this season.
Fowler is a jerk suggesting that Hamilton was faking an injury to slow down the game.
Way too many cramps
Low snaps all night. Gotta fix that before PSU game
Way too many drops
Tempo was crazy much of the game
Safety play opposite Fuller is our greatest weakness
Shawn Wade can ball. Need to move him to safety
Defense gave up some big plays (See Safety Comment) but in the end saved the day
Dobbins is a special player
Haskins had a really good game. Without the drops he would have had a 70% completion rate and another passing TD
OL showed that they are for real in a high pressure game versus a very talented Defense
KJ Hill is our best receiver
Not many people gonna beat Campbell in a foot race.
Werner is coming on. He is going to be a special player by the end of the season
Really hope Bosa is back by the PSU game. Need Young and Cooper to step up.
Our kick coverage and kick return game looked good.
FGs and punting was off.
Coaches did a good job.
Welcome back Coach!

Go BUCKS!
 
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INSIDE THE BOX: NO. 4 OHIO STATE TAKES DOWN NO. 15 TEXAS CHRISTIAN THANKS TO JONES AND CAREER NIGHT FROM HASKINS

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After three long weeks, Urban Meyer will be back on the sidelines against Tulane.

Meyer will take over arguably the best team in football as the Buckeyes are coming off of their biggest game of the season thus far.

Today, we will discuss Ohio State's loaded wide receiver room, Dobbins's homecoming game, how Dre'Mont Jones and Jordan Fuller proved their value, and why Ohio State's mistake-free play is responsible for its unblemished record.

THE VERSATILITY OF OHIO STATE’S RECEIVERS HAS PROVEN TO BE KEY
Coming into Week Three, Ohio State’s offense looked to be one of the best in the country. Despite playing inferior opponents, the Buckeyes were a well-oiled machine that averaged over 650 yards of offense and 60 points a game.

Nothing changed on Saturday.

Ohio State gained 526 yards, putting them at No. 3 for yards per game in the nation through three games. Dwayne Haskins threw for a career-high 344 yards and two touchdowns on Saturday.

Coming into the season, Ohio State looked to have one of the most experienced receiving core in the nation to support its first-year starter at quarterback. After three games and a ranked opponent, Ohio State’s passing attack is evenly distributed and has helped Haskins to a hot-start.

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K.J. Hill’s 100% catch rate should not go unnoticed. Hill is not a flashy player, he’s a great route-runner that can get open and can make Haskins look good on the rare occasion he does not throw a perfect ball. Hill has already been crowned the most consistent receiver on the team and leads the team in yards.

Looking at the target shares, it appears that Austin Mack is the favorite intended receiver for the Buckeyes. Despite Mack getting the plurality of the looks, he also holds all of the receivers’ drops on the season. Mack received half of his targets against TCU, however, suggesting that Ohio State wanted to use his size and strength to attack the smaller, faster defensive-backs of the Big 12.

The flexibility of Ohio State’s receivers has also proven to be a key aspect of their offensive success. The Buckeyes have had a different leading receiver in each game, allowing Haskins to pick his spots and take advantage of mismatches.

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K.J. Hill and Johnnie Dixon are both quick slot receivers with great hands, McLaurin, Mack, and Victor are strong possession receivers, and Campbell is a speed-demon who can take it to the house on any given play. Even these descriptions do not give the receivers their due justice; each player can fill a number of different roles and do not fit perfectly into a single one.
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DRE’MONT JONES AND JORDAN FULLER STEPPED UP
When Nick Bosa went down, Ohio State fans across the country held their breath.

The nation’s best player struggled to get up after suffering an abdominal injury early in the third quarter. TCU converted a third down on that same play and looked to take advantage of Ohio State’s crucial injury. Instead, the Buckeyes did not allow a single yard and forced the Horned Frogs to punt.

Ohio State’s emphatic response to Bosa’s injury encapsulated their play in the second half, with key players stepping up in key moments. Dre’Mont Jones once again showed that Bosa is not the only first-round talent on Ohio State's defensive line. He recorded five tackles (two TFL), one sack, and an interception returned for a touchdown in the second half.

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Dre’Mont Jones set the tone up front and recorded a game’s worth of play in just one half. Jones’s play earned him Big 10 Defensive Player of the Week honors.

Leaving the front four for the back four, Jordan Fuller continues to be one of the most valuable players for the Buckeyes. He recorded a team-high eight tackles and was clearly the best player in the secondary.

In what seems to be an ongoing theme for Ohio State, the coaching staff must work to fix the poor safety play next to Fuller. Shaun Wade primarily lined up as a nickel-back and Fuller played as a strong safety, leaving either Jahsen Wint or Isaiah Pryor on an island in the middle of the field.

Pryor assisted in allowing a 93-yard touchdown run, the longest offensive play allowed in school history, while Wint failed to track a 51-yard deep ball from Shawn Robinson. Either the development of the two young safeties must progress or a replacement should be considered.
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Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/data...thanks-to-jones-and-career-night-from-haskins
 
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Observations:
TCU is a really good team. Will win a lot of games this season.
Fowler is a jerk suggesting that Hamilton was faking an injury to slow down the game.
Way too many cramps
Low snaps all night. Gotta fix that before PSU game
Way too many drops
Tempo was crazy much of the game
Safety play opposite Fuller is our greatest weakness
Shawn Wade can ball. Need to move him to safety
Defense gave up some big plays (See Safety Comment) but in the end saved the day
Dobbins is a special player
Haskins had a really good game. Without the drops he would have had a 70% completion rate and another passing TD
OL showed that they are for real in a high pressure game versus a very talented Defense
KJ Hill is our best receiver
Not many people gonna beat Campbell in a foot race.
Werner is coming on. He is going to be a special player by the end of the season
Really hope Bosa is back by the PSU game. Need Young and Cooper to step up.
Our kick coverage and kick return game looked good.
FGs and punting was off.
Coaches did a good job.
Welcome back Coach!

Go BUCKS!
Out of all of this there seems to be one solution that combines a player of strength with a position of weakness thus eliminating some of the negative aspects of our defense. You said it putting weighed at safety solves a ton. You get one of our top Defenders on the field more and address a position of weakness at the same time. How many more times do we have to watch teams go 60 yards on our defense before we make the change?
 
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That's the way I see it...if TCU cant hold us under 500 yards then PED sure as shit aren't.

They lost 8 on defense and worse yet the best offense they will have faced up until our game is KENT STATE. Shoot even Penn States offense is ranked worse (77th) and that's with App State/Kent State/Pitt as opposition
Based upon what I’ve seen, we will score on most defenses. Meanwhile an offense like PSU will likely put up a fair number of points in us.
 
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Based upon what I’ve seen, we will score on most defenses. Meanwhile an offense like PSU will likely put up a fair number of points in us.
Fair enough... so then it is who can out score our offense? Which IMO no one can.

We keep saying it (which is starting to piss me off) but all we have to do is limit the damn big play. I don't believe anyone in the big ten can consistently drive the whole field.

I actually would be in favor of lightening up our aggressiveness to just be more sound.
 
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Fair enough... so then it is who can out score our offense? Which IMO no one can.

We keep saying it (which is starting to piss me off) but all we have to do is limit the damn big play. I don't believe anyone in the big ten can consistently drive the whole field.

I actually would be in favor of lightening up our aggressiveness to just be more sound.
No one can? I’m pretty sure Alabama is showing they can and certainly PSU can do it. I have no idea if they WILL do it, but yeah, they are capable. I am thinking/hoping that the Buckeyes are still very much a “work in progress“ because they show a ton of potential while also showing a need for improvement in multiple areas. This week is a gimmie, next week, probably not so much.
 
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No one can? I’m pretty sure Alabama is showing they can and certainly PSU can do it. I have no idea if they WILL do it, but yeah, they are capable. I am thinking/hoping that the Buckeyes are still very much a “work in progress“ because they show a ton of potential while also showing a need for improvement in multiple areas. This week is a gimmie, next week, probably not so much.
No one in the big ten I mean and yes that includes Penn State.. their scores the last 2 weeks are typical Penn State pile on jobs (starters in until the 4th and still throwing late).

Who will be better prepared for that game in 2 weeks? A team that already played TCU (who is better IMO on both sides of the ball) or a team who's toughest game is either App State or Pittsburgh?

Penn State replaces ALOT. 8 on defense and 5 on offense with no warm up essentially for the game in 2 weeks. Tall order for them to step so far up in class after playing who they have the first 4 weeks.
 
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Based upon what I’ve seen, we will score on most defenses. Meanwhile an offense like PSU will likely put up a fair number of points in us.

I am somewhat skeptical.
AppSt, Pitt, and KentSt tell us very little.
UI wont tell us much more.
McSorley doesnt look as good w/o his talisman... and he never looked great.
Sanders looks good but against weak competition. Neither is Gesicki coming back...
 
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Ped State scares me less than TCU on defense. Patterson is a defensive genius and I was afraid he'd bring some batshit insane scheme that would utterly confuse the offense. Haskins might throw for 400+ and several TDs on that Pedster defense.
Penn State has more talent on D than TCU and are just as well coached. When they want to be. it will be a struggle to put up 40.

On the other hand their offense has less speed and are more traditional than TCU. Though their o line is better its still not good enough and our D line can't be stopped. What hurt us last Saturday was the offensive scheme and play speed. PSU won't have either.

Though this game was in their backyard it was a pro OSU crowd. in 11 days it will be the first hostile environment for our guys. Very hostile. Get ready for another slow start.

29-24
 
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Penn State has more talent on D than TCU and are just as well coached. When they want to be. it will be a struggle to put up 40.

On the other hand their offense has less speed and are more traditional than TCU. Though their o line is better its still not good enough and our D line can't be stopped. What hurt us last Saturday was the offensive scheme and play speed. PSU won't have either.

Though this game was in their backyard it was a pro OSU crowd. in 11 days it will be the first hostile environment for our guys. Very hostile. Get ready for another slow start.

29-24

More talent than TCU on D yes, but they're breaking in a LOT of new guys on that side of the ball, especially in the secondary. I agree the environment will make it a slow start, but if they want to keep it as close as you think they're gonna have to score a lot of points, which they very well may if OSU keeps getting gashed.

I think Haskins picks the secondary apart, the defense plays pretty well overall, and this ends up 41-28.
 
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FILM STUDY: SETTING UP THE PLAYS THAT DEFINED OHIO STATE'S BIG WIN OVER TCU

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"We get the turnover by Dre'Mont [Jones], get the ball back and it hit for K.J [Hill]. It went fast right there, and that's where the game, I think, turned." - Ryan Day



Last Saturday's tilt in North Texas between Ohio State and TCU more than lived up to the hype. Often, non-conference matchups like these fall flat as one program fails to maintain it's standards in the half-decade following the contest's announcement. But fans both in AT&T Stadium and the millions more watching at home were treated to a slugfest between two very talented and well-coached programs.

While Ohio State pulled away for a two-score victory, the game wasn't decided until late in the fourth quarter when Horned Frogs quarterback Shawn Robinson forced a pass into coverage, resulting in an interception for Buckeye linebacker Malik Harrison. But though the game seemed to be littered with big plays like that one, it was truly defined by the small adjustments made both before and during the game by each coaching staff.

As expected, neither team appeared to have overlooked the other, with TCU head coach Gary Patterson admitting at July's Big 12 media days that he'd already spent countless hours studying the Buckeyes' 2017 film. But it became clear soon after kickoff that his counterparts on the opposite sideline had done the same.

Fans that expected the only interesting matchup to be Ohio State's suddenly high-flying offense against Patterson's aggressive defense must've been pleasantly surprised to see a different chess match steal some attention. Having once been a record-setting QB in Mike Leach's Air Raid system at Texas Tech, TCU coordinator Sonny Cumbie put together a game plan that would've made any Big 12 offensive coordinator proud, spreading the field with receivers from sideline to sideline while adding an uptempo element that is hard to replicate in practice.

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"They're a very fast team," OSU star defensive tackle Dre'Mont Jones said after the game. "Probably the fastest team I ever played since I've been in college."

Additionally, with the receivers split out so far, Greg Schiano's defense was effectively in man-to-man coverage situations all night, as rarely was there another defender nearby to help regardless of the defense called. The result was a number of big plays, both through the air and in the running game that caught the Buckeye defense out of position.

Though Cumbie has Air Raid roots, he seemed determined to win the game on the ground, looking to read Ohio State's talented defensive linemen in the option game rather than try to block them all at once.

By removing the receivers from the equation and forcing the Buckeye front six to defend all the space between the numbers opened up gaps in the running game. All it took was one false step from Harrison, who shifted over to the middle linebacker role thanks to motion, to allow the center to make enough contact to spring Darius Anderson for the longest play any Ohio State defense has ever allowed from scrimmage.

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"Offensively, when we went in tempo, they really struggled with it," Patterson noted after the game. "So when we could go fast, we did a good job of doing that."

If anything, Patterson thought his offense didn't go fast enough.

"I think they have a very good football team. And I think we had a speed advantage," he added later in the post-game press conference. "We needed to keep using it."

Eventually, Ohio State caught up to TCU's pace and implemented some tweaks of their own. As they saw on the same field from USC just nine months prior, the Buckeyes often placed a linebacker right up on the line of scrimmage, hovering over the A or B-gap to play games with the Horned Frogs' zone-blocking scheme.

Sometimes, the linebacker would blitz directly while at other times he'd drop slightly and wait for the end being optioned to break inside, exchanging gap responsibilities and throwing off Robinson's reads. The blitzes worked quite well, as Robinson was held to seven net yards rushing that night.

This constant threat of pressure inside along with the freakish talent of Jones, Nick Bosa, and the rest of Larry Johnson's defensive line proved too much to keep at bay, and eventually, the dam broke. After failing to connect on a shovel-option in the first half thanks to A-gap pressure from a Tuf Borland blitz, Cumbie went back to the well only to find it empty again later in the third.

Despite running a three-man Bear front with Jones lined up directly over the center, Schiano brought additional pressure, this time from native Texan Baron Browning. When outside linebacker Pete Werner forced an early pitch as the option man, the result was an overwhelmed offensive line that allowed Jones to jump the shovel route.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ays-that-defined-ohio-states-big-win-over-tcu
 
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