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OK State by the numbers

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Jaxbuck, Dec 19, 2004.

  1. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    I know some rough previews of the other OSU have been floating around so if this needs to be merged somewhere, I apologize.

    NCAA rank/raw number for OK State

    Offense
    Rushing....8th/245 ypg
    Passing....111th/144.1 ypg
    Passing effeciency....8th/156.82 passer rating
    Total O....45th/389.08 ypg
    Scoring....15th/34.55 ppg


    Never seen a game of theirs but its pretty clear by these numbers they are a one dimensional team that runs the ball exceptionally well. As is to be expected with a great running team they don't pass much, but when they do they are very effecient with it. 35 points per game is a ton.

    Defense
    Rushing....70th/170.2 ypg
    Passing....73rd/225.45 ypg
    Scoring....49th/24.4 ppg
    Total D....73rd/395.64 ypg


    Now we start to see why they have the record they do. Anyway you slice it this is a bad defense.

    Special Teams and Intangibles
    TO margin....1/1.64 per game
    Fewest Penalties per game....T3rd/4.27 penalties per game


    Their hidden weapon. Win the TO battle and few penalties is a sure fire recipie for success. You can tell they have B10 blood in their coaches veins.

    Punt Return Yardage Defense....73rd/10.39 yds per return and 1 TD
    Now here's one that just might come back to haunt them.

    Overall it looks like we match up pretty well with them. They rely on help from the other team in the form of TO's and penalties to offset that poor defense. If we keep Lydell on the bench and thereby eliminate fumbles while continuing the late season offensive growth we should be ok. As always it looks like TG2 could be a huge factor in the punt return game.

    Of course the flipside is if they can keep long sustained drives or play on a short field due to TO's/innefective offense, then it will be a long night as our defense is prone to wearing out.

    All in all, I like our chances with a team that lines up and just runs the ball.

    Any thoughts?
     
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  2. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member


    They lost their best return man, Darrent Williams, in week 4 with a broken arm. He is supposed to be back for the Alamo. Before the injury, he had 9 returns for 249 yds and 1 TD...that is a 27.7 average. Prentiss Elliott took over and managed 1 TD himself, but is not nearly the playmaker Williams can be.
     
  3. WangHo

    WangHo O-State.com

    In the words of Corso...."Not so fast my friend." PE might not be the playmaker DW is, but thats not saying a whole lot because of the level DW is on. PE is quite the playmaker though. Also remember that DW's stats came in lesser quality opponents, while PE's return numbers came against Big XII competition.

    If you'd guys like to see a nice side by side comparison of "by the numbers" check out Bowl Central on our site.

    http://www.o-state.com
     
  4. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    No doubt Elliot is a player, but Williams' 27.7yds/return is a big difference from Elliott's 11.1/return. Elliott is still a pup so the experience of Williams is a huge factor also. Not cracking on PE at all, but he is not as dangerous as Holmes IMO and certainly not Ginn. Now Williams may be another argument in that aspect...

    If Williams does not get hurt, I would guess the Pokes are not playing in the Alamo and OU is possibly not undefeated.
     
  5. JWil

    JWil O-State.com S.I.D

    Dude, you're looking at just the numbers. He's a phenominal talent. I'll take my chances with him returning stuff.

    And please don't call us Okie. Don't make me use "ohhowIhate." lol
     
  6. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Well wouldn't the numbers make for a good comparison? If potential was a key comparison, every D1 team would have a valid argument based on opinion. Numbers reflect results.

    And who called you Okie? I meant the Pokes might have ruined OU's season again...

    And don't call me dude :biggrin:
     
  7. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    That stat was OSU's punt return DEFENSE. They rank in the bottom 1/3 of the NCAA in stopping punt returners. We have the nations top punt returner in TG2.

    When looking at matchup problems that one really jumped out at me in our favor.

    Nuge is obviously an advantage over anyone else so I didn't list place kicking. We also look to have an edge on paper in Punting and defending both Punt and Kickoff returns.

    All in all, I think going into the game we have an advantage in every facet of special teams play.

    BTW that side by side on their site is great. No analysis but a tremendous job of laying out the data.
     
  8. Doafhat

    Doafhat Orange is Power!

    Keep in mind that these are just numbers, guys. Analyzing stats is easy, but breaking down the team from the start of the season to now is a totally different beast. At the beginning of the year we were all afraid that Donovan Woods's throwing ability might cost us some games, yet at the end of the season all Cowboy fans were saying to each other "Boy, we really should have thrown it more against Texas Tech." The stats may not show it, but Donovan has developed into much more of a passing threat than many people gave him credit for at the beginning of the season. Against Oklahoma's vaunted defense, Donovan did an incredible job (considering that he's a redshirt freshman) and his long incomplete pass to Prentiss Elliot in double coverage near the end of the game was just off of PE's fingertips.

    Vernand Morency is still the key to the offense, though. Rushing is always where Oklahoma State football begins and ends, as getting off to a fast start on the ground is always a goal in each game.
     
  9. JWil

    JWil O-State.com S.I.D

    "All in all, I like our chances with a team that lines up and just runs the ball."

    Please continue to think we can't/won't run the ball.
     
  10. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Please continue to you can/will run the ball :wink2:
     
  11. Ryno

    Ryno O-State.com AD

    I don't remember ever having punt coverage problems this year. I mean, if you look at it by pure numbers... We allow a little over 2 yards per return more than your OSU team allows.

    We have one of the best punters in the Big XII, who also happens to be the nations BEST kickoff man.

    Our special teams has been near the top in the nation (probably top 10/15) since Miles came to Stillwater.

    BTW: Here are the numbers from the game, side to side...

    http://www.o-state.com/bowl-central/2004/12/17/alamo-bowl-by-the-numbers
     
  12. best quote on these guys philosphy was i believe tressel after the miami game,
    "they knew, that we know, that they know, they couldn't run the ball"
     
  13. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ



    OK, I continued to think it, what was your point?
     
  14. WangHo

    WangHo O-State.com

    Pitifull play calling. The 8th best back in the country touches the ball 8 times in the game. I can't explain it.
     
  15. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    WangHo - Sorry you didn't enjoy the game much tonight - OK, not really.

    But thanks for contributing to this board, and here's hoping the Cowboys tear it up in the Big-12 in 2005.
     

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