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Game Thread Oregon State @ Ohio State - 09/01/18, 12:00PM (ABC)

Discussion in '2018 Football Season Capsule' started by Dryden, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. BUCKDUBBS007

    BUCKDUBBS007 TSUN GIVE A DAMN METER: 0% Torrents

  2. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Didn't get to see most of the second half after they scored their last long TD...

    Finally saw the INT play and you can't blame Haskins there. Pressure in his face and had the guy open but just sailed it a bit due to the pressure. Acceptable risk there IMO
     
  3. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    The Grumpy Old Buckeye: OSU vs. Oregon State

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    Welcome to the first edition of the Grumpy Old Buckeye. In this column, my aim is to be the voice of negativity, even when things are generally pretty great. I’ll point out the things from each game that make me want to walk out onto my lawn in my bathrobe and yell at people about it. First up: Ohio State vs. Oregon State.

    The Suspension
    It all started before the game even kicked off. ABC’s broadcast started with a four-minute intro before the opening kickoff and none of it was related to the football game. Instead, the focus was on the Urban Meyer suspension, including a Bleacher Report-esque slide show of the timeline of events. Yes, it’s a big story and sure, there might be those four guys who just returned from the Amazon rainforest who may not have heard about it, but it feels like we’ve heard plenty about the story over the past several weeks and it’s a disservice to the players of both schools not to spend any time on key matchups or players to watch.

    Kickoff Fair Catch Rule
    If I wasn’t already salty about the broadcast intro, the opening kickoff reminded me of how dumb rule changes can be. A fair catch on a kickoff should not come out to the 25. That’s a tremendous reward for the receiving team and a penalty on a team with competent kickoff coverage. Special teams are part of the game. If you want to protect the players, that’s fine, but a fair catch should come out no further than five or 10 yards further up the field from where it was caught. If you want to fair catch it at the 5-yard line, you can have it at the 15. At worst, it should come out to the old touchback spot, the 20.

    Big Plays Allowed
    A common theme early in the game, which returned on Oregon State’s final drive of the first half, was allowing big plays. Most of these were short passes into the flats that turned into big gains. This was an issue a few years ago and it’s no surprise that having a suspect linebacker group and new players at safety that it came back. There was a busted coverage and terrible angles taken on the first Oregon State touchdown.

    My biggest gripe was with the final drive of the first half when the Beavers achieved three of their five third-down conversions in the half. All of them were third-and-long situations. The first came on a play we’ve seen too often. Chase Young did well to pressure the quarterback and Kendall Sheffield was well positioned to intercept or knock away the pass. Instead, he did neither and allowed the completion on a deflection off his shoulder. Hopefully this won’t be a trend again for Sheffield. The last of the three conversions was the most maddening, as the Beavers picked up a third-and-19 on a simple draw play.

    The Buckeyes weren’t done, with Antwuan Jackson completely botching a tackle to start the second half, and everyone else assumed he’d make the play, while Artavis Pierce bounced outside and ran 80 yards for a score. Pierce had another big run a drive later with Jahsen Wint taking a bad angle and the linebackers being too aggressive. Yuck.

    Penalty Two-Fers
    Chase Young and Jeffrey Okudah ramped up my blood pressure with a pair of identical mistakes just a couple plays apart. Young, who should be looking down the line at the ball, jumped offside twice. Those two penalties were bad, but Okudah doubled down on them by committing pass interference on both plays. Instead of 10 total yards allowed, the Buckeyes allowed 30.

    Muffed Punt
    Although it only resulted in a missed field goal, C.J. Saunders’ muffed punt was awful. But I don’t put it all on him. Not only did Damon Arnette not handle his business in blocking the Oregon State gunner, but he also crowded his own return man and ultimately created the turnover.

    Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/09/grumpy-old-buckeye-oregon-state/
     
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  4. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Stock Market Report: Buy Dwayne Haskins, passing game. Sell Tate Martell run packages.

    Lots of blue-chip stocks on display at The ‘Shoe yesterday.

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    Are we back to having fun yet? After a long, miserable offseason, Ohio State played an actual football game yesterday afternoon, and just as we expected, it was an absolute bloodbath. The Buckeyes curb-stomped Oregon State to the tune of a 77-31 victory, their first of the year, and Ryan Day’s first as the interim head coach.

    From the opening kick, Ohio State was never really challenged by Oregon State. The Buckeye offense was dominant for the entire time that the starters were on the field, and while the back seven of the defense had some issues, the defensive line looked just as good as advertised. Oregon State backup quarterback Conor Blount was on the ground all day long, thanks to Chase Young, BB Landers, Dre’Mont Jones, and of course, Nick Bosa.

    There’s only so much that can be taken from a game like this, but we’ve gotta get these takes off, so let’s dive into the Buckeye football stock market for the first time in 2018.

    Blue-chip stocks
    Dwayne Haskins, QB: This honestly feels too easy to put Dwayne on here, but his performance is still worth talking about. The redshirst sophomore, starting his first ever college football game, put on a show, lighting up an overmatched Oregon State defense to the tune of 313 yards and 5 touchdowns, on 73% completion percentage.

    We’ve been touting Haskins as an elite quarterback here at Land-Grant Holy Land dot com for months now, but it certainly felt nice to see him do something so rude to a Power Five defense (I use that term very lightly here). He looked confident, the offense flowed extremely well through him, and as much as we love J.T. Barrett here, it was very nice to see someone air the ball out in Columbus.

    The defensive line: I touched on it in the intro, but hoo boy this defensive line is absolutely no joke. The starters were in the backfield all day long, picking up what felt like 30 sacks, and generally causing havoc for an Oregon State offense that really didn’t need any help being impotent. Every one of the starters, save for a couple dumb offsides by Chase Young, looked stellar whenever they were on the field, and this group was just as dominant as we thought they’d be. Even the backups, like freshmen Taron Vincent and Tyreke Smith, looked great in limited time.

    Clemson and Michigan’s lines got a lot of hype this season. It seems that Ohio State deserves to be in that discussion too.

    Revamped receivers room: Hey, it looks like Ohio State’s receivers may be competent, well coached, and capable of actually catching passes and running routes. I wonder what change caused that? Outside of the obvious, Dwayne Haskins being at the helm also seemed to be a big deal for a receivers room that returns a ton of talent, with a lot to prove.

    K.J. Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack all made some great plays, and while Parris Campbell, Johnnie Dixon and Binjimen Victor were all pretty quiet, I’m really not worried about them. The starting group looked awesome with Haskins tossing darts, and really seemed to take well to the new and improved offensive play-calling as well. Throw in nice performances by some younger guys (shouts out Chris “The Next Devin Smith” Olave and San Marcos California), and this was a very nice start to the Brian Hartline era.

    Solid investments
    Ryan Day: I’m going to preface this by saying that I don’t read my Twitter mentions or emails, so please god do not waste your time trying to yell at me for this section, because I will not see it. Okay, so, now that we’ve got that out the way, it’s safe to say that Ryan Day did a good job today. In fact, I think I’d go as far as to say that Ryan Day did a great job in his first game as a head coach.

    There were a few baffling personnel decisions that we’ll talk about in a little bit, but for the most part, I was very happy with what I saw from the interim head coach. The play calling, especially when Haskins was at quarterback, was excellent, and far more entertaining than the Buckeye offenses of years past. Haskins was allowed to let it fly, and was given open targets to throw to for the entire time that he was on the field. There were also zero quarterback runs from Haskins in the first half, and J.K. Dobbins/ Mike Weber were depended on to carry the ball. That’s how it should be.

    As strange as it is to say, I think I feel a bit more confident with Ryan Day calling the offense heading into Rutgers and TCU than I would with Urban Meyer. Call it recency bias, but I really do think that Day is a great game manager and playcaller. I’m not sure if that can be said about Urban Meyer.

    Drue Chrisman: LOOK AT THIS F***ING PUNT



    Junk bonds
    Oregon State’s entire team: Listen, we knew what this was going in. Oregon State is a definitely bad team, and this was never going to be a struggle for Ohio State. However, the fact that a Power Five roster is that dreadfully bad is deeply upsetting. The Beavers aren’t quite on the level of Kansas, but they’re much closer than we thought. Thankfully for them, Southern Utah comes to town next week, but after that, I just don’t see Oregon State winning against another FBS team. Their offense showed a little life today, but they just don’t have the talent to keep up.

    Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2018/9/2/17809574/ohio-state-oregon-state-week-one-stock-market-report
     
  5. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    BTN will be airing this game in 60 minutes at 4 pm ET today, for those like me that missed most of the second half.

    Also airing at 8 pm tonight.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2018
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  6. Hetuck

    Hetuck Senior

    And you really think that makes a significant difference?

    In my experience it looks like the QB makes the coach more than the coach makes the QB. But if you're in the 'blame Beck for every offensive failure' camp then it's pointless to try to reason you out of a position you weren't reasoned into in the first place. And that's too bad. Football is a complex sport and you're missing out if you can't appreciate that. Nope, there's just one person to blame for every problem. Fix that and you'll win every game.
     
  7. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    Every place Beck has been the QB's have underachieved. Common sense says Beck was a major problem.
     
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  8. HorseshoeFetish

    HorseshoeFetish Silver Bullet Supporter


    Dude just hasn't found his Andrew Luck yet.
     
  9. TooTall

    TooTall Senior '17 Bowl Pick Em Champ

    No doubt. I personally think Ehlinger has some great potential, but whatever coaching he’s getting from Beck will never help elevate him to the level he truly needs to be for Texas to be an 8-10 win team.
     
  10. TooTall

    TooTall Senior '17 Bowl Pick Em Champ

    For a second, I thought I was in the wrong thread and you were talking about Jim Harbaugh. :lol:
     
  11. Jagdaddy

    Jagdaddy Senior

    Hyperbole much, bro? My view is more along the lines of Urban's 9 units strong: The chain's only as strong as its weakest link: Based on a rather substantial body of evidence based on both results and the eye test at Nebraska, Ohio State, and now Texas, Beck looks like the weakest, or at least a pretty damn weak, link wherever he goes. That doesn't mean that every other coach and player is perfect by any means, and I never said that.

    I don't have time to get deep into analysis here, but just at the most basic level, here are Ohio State's offensive PPG since Urban took over:

    2012: 37.2 (increase of 12.7 PPG over 2011)
    2013: 45.5
    2014: 44.1
    2015: 35.7 (Beck)
    2016: 39.4 (Beck)
    2017: 41.1
    2018: TBD, but I'll bet it ends up being well over 40 PPG.

    Hell, just for shits and giggles:

    2015: Houston Cougars (Herman w/o Beck) 40.4 PPG
    2016: Texas Longhorns (Herman w/ Beck) 31.9 PPG
    2017: Texas Longhorns (Herman w/ Beck) 29.5 PPG
    2018: Texas Longhorns TBD, but Maryland gave up more than the 29 points that Texas scored on them last week in 10 of their 12 games, including the Rutgers game, last year.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2018
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  12. HorseshoeFetish

    HorseshoeFetish Silver Bullet Supporter

    Laugh now, but with the right Luck, he too could be a QB whisperer. :lol:
     
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  13. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    INSIDE THE BOX: NO. 5 OHIO STATE TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS IN SEASON-OPENER AGAINST OREGON STATE

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    Buckeye football is back.

    After a nine-month hiatus, Ohio State football is back in the Shoe as the Buckeyes proved to be far too much for the Oregon State Beavers.

    Here, we will touch on Dwayne Haskins Jr.'s first start and how it compares to past Ohio State quarterbacks, how Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins could outplay their 2017 standard, why the defense will lean on Bosa and co., and how Oregon State could foreshadow some high-point totals.

    DWAYNE HASKINS IS READY TO TAKE THE REINS
    Dwayne Haskins Jr. – stop me if you have heard this before – had a historic first-start against Oregon State. The Beavers could do little to stop Haskins and allowed him to throw for 313 yards and five touchdowns.

    Since the beginning of Urban Meyer’s tenure at Ohio State, elite players at the quarterback position has been a staple. Braxton Miller, J.T. Barrett, and Cardale Jones are some of the best in recent memory. When comparing first-starts, Haskins outperformed them all.

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    Haskins also threw for the most touchdowns (five) and had the most yards per rush attempt (12) of those quarterbacks compared.

    In other news, Ohio State showed that the Read-Option-heavy offense of years past has been archived. Dwayne Haskins’s two rushing attempts indicate that the Buckeyes will be turning to a pro-style offense.

    The fearsome running back duo of Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins will likely pressure defenses while Haskins uses his arm to pick the secondary apart and take the top off.

    WEBER AND DOBBINS WILL COMPLEMENT HASKINS
    Ohio State’s running attack ground up a total 375 yards, 260 of which came from the starting duo of Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins. Mike Weber added four touchdowns, three on the ground and one on a jet-sweep pass from Haskins.

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    Their total yards greatly surpassed last year’s average thanks to a huge effort from Weber. Weber got more touches and took advantage of them, outgaining Dobbins by over 100 yards. Additionally, Weber's 49-yard touchdown was the longest rush of the day.

    Their combined attempts (35) was also much higher than last year’s average (21), again signaling a move towards a pro-style offense with Haskins staying in the pocket.

    Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/data-viz/2018/09/96047/inside-the-box-ohio-state-takes-care-of-business-in-season-opener-against-oregon-state
     
  14. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

  15. Nigel Tufnel

    Nigel Tufnel Choking on vomit

    You do God's work sir.
     
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