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OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

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QualityLoss said:
I am certainly intrigued by Diallo's elite measurables but with so little footage it is hard for me to say. You would be looking for a Clint Capela like big man which is to say that he catches lobs and protects the paint. Are his feet agile enough for PnR coverage? I am not as attached to Loveday as others so I would be okay with the risk.

Nomatta, would you prefer BR or Diallo? Obviously different positions but the scholarship count makes it comparable.
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I'm trying not to be more obnoxious about my support for Roderick than I already have been. I like his game a lot and Snow has recently posted an evaluation of Roderick's game that paints the picture of a legit high major scorer and all-around nice wing prospect.

I prefer Roderick but Diallo certainly has a lot of (mostly unrealized, at this juncture) potential. I personally think we need a player like Roderick more than we need a player like Diallo but the emergence of Ahrens might change that. That said, you can never have too many shooters/scorers/play-makers in college bball.

The thought of Roderick at a different B1G school makes me sick to my stomach. If we don't offer I certainly hope no other B1G schools do. Because you can tell that Roderick is about guaranteed to pick a school in this conference if any of them want him.
 
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nomatta said:
I'm trying not to be more obnoxious about my support for Roderick than I already have been. I like his game a lot and Snow has recently posted an evaluation of Roderick's game that paints the picture of a legit high major scorer and all-around nice wing prospect.

I prefer Roderick but Diallo certainly has a lot of (mostly unrealized, at this juncture) potential. I personally think we need a player like Roderick more than we need a player like Diallo but the emergence of Ahrens might change that. That said, you can never have too many shooters/scorers/play-makers in college bball.

The thought of Roderick at a different B1G school makes me sick to my stomach. If we don't offer I certainly hope no other B1G schools do. Because you can tell that Roderick is about guaranteed to pick a school in this conference if any of them want him.
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Yeah, I didn't beetlejuice you in here to try push a BR marketing campaign but rather continue the debate on what is probably the most interesting dilemma surrounding our team right now, scholarship limitations.

I disagree about the positional needs of our current team. While we badly need more shooting on the floor (or possibly shooters playing more eg Duane or Ahrens) a defensive paint presence could also transform us defensively and athletically. We appear to my amateur eye to be below average athletes at this point. A rim runner and vertical stretch big could help us offensively as well.

Whether BR is the shooter or Diallo is a player who could provide those attributes is another question. Could you expand on the details of BR's game? However, I do think there is a path to take both if someone transfers but taking 5 players might be tough.


Also Buckguy the neck is the ultimate test. We have to start measuring necks before offers.
 
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diallo makes sense if the staff doesn't feel confident about loveday. bird in the hand. he makes even more sense if attrition is expected. i just hope that the post player they sign for 2019 or 2020 has good feet, hands, and grey matter. skills can be developed. we won't need a finished product for 2019 or probably even 2020. what little i have seen of diallo seems to indicate that he's not rigid and that he has a solid mindset. and as many ho1tmann recruits go, diallo prides himself on defense.

edit: i would be wrong not to list length/athleticism as something i want to see from the post player we sign. in other words, i'm fine with a project as long as he's fluid and long.
 
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QualityLoss said:
Whether BR is the shooter or Diallo is a player who could provide those attributes is another question.
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Yeah, this is basically the crux of it. When I said I'm not sure how much we need a player "like Diallo" I was being somewhat specific to Diallo in the sense of how much a project he is. His mobility/height/length makes for a potentially elite, Embiid-esque prospect but Embiid really started proving himself on the court before he got that Kansas offer. Diallo is far more raw, he is like David Bell raw. There's a reason he doesn't even have a 247 ranking right now.

Is he worth the risk? Maybe. It's tough though because Ledee is a far more polished, proven product than Diallo and Ledee can't even see the court as our sole back-up 6'9 guy.

Our pursuit of Diallo at this moment does make a lot of sense if Ledee is giving "I'm leaving" vibes. Or maybe the staff just believe in Diallo's future potential that much, I dunno. But if Ledee is here next season than I think Diallo is a possible RS candidate.

Ben Roderick is a 6'5-6'6 guy with good length but just average athleticism. Finishes strong, good shooter, mid-range--he's a 3-level scorer. He is also a fairly smooth ballhandler with good BB IQ, good passer, doesn't turn it over too much--really helps his team win at the same time that he is scoring a lot of points. Snow thinks he has a really well-rounded offensive game and while he doesn't think Ben will necessarily be a great shooter as a frosh, does think that Roderick's stroke looks good so should become a good shooter at this level, too. Has a lot of work to do on his defense but Snow thinks that Roderick has the commitment and the length to become decent on that end of the court, too (similar to how Andre has become a very solid defender for us despite mediocre foot speed).

If Ahrens' emergence is legit than MAYBE we don't need a player like Roderick as much as it looked like we might a couple weeks ago. That said, I think I'd still prefer to add a skilled wing over a big who is going to need a few years of development. I won't lie, though, Diallo's upside is very tempting and it must be pretty tempting for the coaches, too, if they are bringing him up here for a visit in the same month that he plans to decide.
 
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nomatta said:
on second thought, offer Diallo.
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I know it's a joke but it also shows how thin we are. One injury or suspension and we are playing small all game even if Young/LeDee are available. You always want the option to do either even if the small ball lineup is optimal.

If the numbers ring true and Diallo reach is 7'9 and he is mobile then you are looking characteristics matched by only one nba player, Rudy Gobert, the best defensive player in the league imo. Players like BR are not every year players in terms of coming from Columbus and such but they are certainly available more often.

If a player were to transfer and I don't want to name names but say a sophomore wing who is limited offensively transferred would you be open to taking both Diallo and BR? Would completely load one class but with redshirts it would not insurmountable. I would personally lean toward keeping 2 for 2020.
 
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QualityLoss said:
I know it's a joke but it also shows how thin we are. One injury or suspension and we are playing small all game even if Young/LeDee are available. You always want the option to do either even if the small ball lineup is optimal.

If the numbers ring true and Diallo reach is 7'9 and he is mobile then you are looking characteristics matched by only one nba player, Rudy Gobert, the best defensive player in the league imo. Players like BR are not every year players in terms of coming from Columbus and such but they are certainly available more often.

If a player were to transfer and I don't want to name names but say a sophomore wing who is limited offensively transferred would you be open to taking both Diallo and BR? Would completely load one class but with redshirts it would not insurmountable. I would personally lean toward keeping 2 for 2020.
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I think we have enough wing players that we do not need to take Roderick. Even if Musa were to transfer out, we still have ample wing guys. I would like to have a defensive stopper in the middle even if he might be limited offensively. If we would take Diallo, I would like to have 2 openings for next year. You never know who might become available. Also, whatever happened to Penn?

I did.not mention Ledee as a possible transfer because I was talking about not having a need for wing guys without bringing in Roderick.
 
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nomatta said:
yes but, also, I'm serious.

that's how pissed I am at Kaleb right now and how much I want another true post option competing for minutes or at least really pushing KW in practice.
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Don't think Diallo will have much effect on KW's minutes. Kaleb is really only limited by himself (conditioning, fouls, suspensions).

Either way you have to feel good about how the staff has positioned themselves with options. They have access to film and expertise to both prospects and 2020 prospects so I have full confidence in whatever they decide.

With that said, lets go big boys.
 
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IBRAHIMA DIALLO TO VISIT OHIO STATE THIS WEEKEND
Colin Hass-Hill on March 7, 2019 at 1:57 pm @chasshill
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Ibrahima Diallo, a 2019 center who plays for Prolific Prep in California, will visit Ohio State this weekend, he told Eleven Warriors. The visit was first reported by Stockrisers' Jake Weingarten.

Diallo is an unranked 7-foot, 226-pound center who moved from Senegal. He doesn't have an offer from Ohio State, but has received scholarship offers from Pittsburgh, DePaul, Florida State and South Florida. Diallo recently visited Pittsburgh and also plans to check out LSU.

RELATED Ibrahima Diallo's Path From Senegal Makes Him Possible Late Addition To Ohio State's 2019 Recruiting Class

The Buckeyes already have three players signed in their 2019 recruiting class – four-star point guard DJ Carton and four-star forwards E.J. Liddell and Alonzo Gaffney – but they have shown interest in both Diallo and in-state wing Ben Roderick in the past couple months. They also appeared as a finalist of four-star guard Lester Quinones, though they're viewed as a long shot.

Ohio State has an open scholarship next season due to Micah Potter's transfer before the beginning of the 2018-19 season, but it seemed content to stick with three 2019 recruits until being linked with Roderick and Diallo.

“They said they didn't have a scholarship for 2019, but he said now they changed their mind, so they really need me to come play,” Diallo said a couple weeks ago.

Diallo said Ohio State contacted his high school coach about four months ago and has since remained in contact with Chris Holtmann and Mike Schrage.

“They say they like my energy, like the fact I run the floor,” Diallo said. “Like my defense, how hard I play for every possession. That's the thing they like about me. They like that, and they think I would be helping them a lot, like the way I play hard, it's going to be really good for them.”

With Diallo publicly stating his intention to decide on a college in March, the Buckeyes likely must make a decision of whether or not to offer him a scholarship this weekend.


https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...a5yqqTyCVTw7qlKEpy3DhN9tAWLvzwsTXcxjQGpji8pXM
 
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