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Overreaction? Common Sense?

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by osugrad21, Oct 14, 2004.

  1. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Teen Suspended Over Civil War Weapon

    Wed Oct 13, 9:46 AM ET

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    PINE BUSH, N.Y. - A teen-age Civil War buff has been suspended from school and faces serious charges after his replica musket was found in his car trunk at school in the Orange County community of Pine Bush.

    Joshua Phelps had been at a re-enactment with his Civil War costume, including a musket last week. He threw the uniform and equipment into his truck and forgot about it. Yesterday a security guard at the Pine Bush High School saw it and called police.

    Phelps was sitting in study hall when the security guard told him to go to the assistant principal. When he was told they saw the rifle he wasn't concerned - thinking they would understand it's part of his costume.

    But it didn't happen that way. Town of Crawford Police were called and Phelps was cuffed and charged with a misdemeanor charge of criminal possession of a weapon.

    His mother, Valerie Michaels, is outraged, saying the school has blown this thing way out of proportion. She says also in the trunk was a costume, shoes, leather belt, powder keg, and a leather cartridge box.

    Phelps used the costume when taking part of the re-enactment of the Battle of Chancellorville which was staged by the 124th New York State Volunteers. The re-enactors say they are models of the unit that came from Orange County and fought in the Civil war. High School students were recruited to take part in the re-enactors club. Phelps' mother questions why give the students fake guns and then arrest them.

    Pine Bush School Superintendent RoseMarie Stark called the incident a student discipline matter and declined to comment further. Link
  2. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    First... its an extreme overreaction.

    I have a question, also... is it a replica gun or a 'fake' gun. (Both words were used in the article) If its fake, then they are really being assholes.

    Edit: If its a firing replica- then who's giving these things out to high school kids in the first place?

    Edit 2: According to the Police Chief, it was in firing order. I also like the part where the kid says he joined the Civil Wr Club to boost his extracurricular activities so he could improve his college applications.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2004
  3. Never should have been suspended and the kid should get an automatic "A" in history!!

    Man dont' get me started on all of this as we had are own issue with this stuff within the last week.....
  4. LoKyBuckeye

    LoKyBuckeye I give up. This board is too hard to understand.

    He never should have been put in cuffs. This is an overreaction on the part of the school, IMHO.
  5. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    wouldnt possession of an automatic get him arrested again?
  6. Good One 27!!
  7. gregorylee

    gregorylee I'd rather be napping!!

    It's rediculas, but it doesn't surprise me one bit.

    Hell, school is not that same place we went to when we were kids. They threatened to suspend my son for having medicate lip balm. The whole thing is just fucking rediculas.
  8. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    ranks up there with the latest Jersey teacher incident...

    Gal was dressing up her classroom to prep for their upcoming topic of USA... and she posted flags, red/white/blue streamers, pictures of the white house, capital, wash monument... and various presidents ... including the current president...

    Kids' parents demanded she be reprimanded and forced to remove Bush 43s picture since they viewed it as political support for GW...

    Her excuse was intolerable... She told them she was unaware 12 year olds could vote and influence elections...
  9. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    If the weapon worked, I think you've got to do something about it. 'cuffing and stuffing' is a little over the top, though. I think they should have givin him a 'period' punishment, like put him in leg irons and ridicule him or something. :wink:

    Seriously, though - I'd be more concerned with a 'powder keg' than the gun - was it really filled with gunpowder?
  10. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    Unless it was a can of Black Powder.. it was probably decorative... he also had a Cartridge Box... Which probably did have Black powder charges in it... likely less pwerful than an M-80. What I'm sure he didn't have were any projectiles (Balls-Bullets, whatever).

    Notice in the second aritcle the conitnue to say that they were also worried about the weapion causing havoc... a clear run around the fact that he was pretty incapable of inflicting real harm.
  11. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

    Schools are getting out of hand and I'm a teacher!

    This year we're not allowed having microfridges or microwaves in our rooms.

    We just got a memo recently that said we aren't allowed to have hand lotion in our rooms anymore. Don't ask me why.

    Also, we're not allowed to use any househeold cleaner to clean our desks b/c kids may get a hold of it and poison themselves.

    What a load of horseshit!!

    Blame the soft parents for this garbage!
  12. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    Public whippings. I tell you truth, if this country re-institued public floggings, it would be a better place.
  13. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    I think they're just pissed because the South won at Chancellorsville.

    What they really ought to do is expel him for be a re-enactment dork. I'm sure there was a Storm Trooper costume in his back seat.
  14. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    They finally got tired of your public masturbation?
  15. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    Hold up, what does lotion have to do with masturbation?

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