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Oversigning (capacity 25, everyone welcome! maybe)

ORD_Buckeye;2087751; said:
Obviously, the SEC was about as serious about doing away with over signing as Ped State was about distancing itself from JoePed.
Ord, the SEC rule allows back counting, which is where LSU f-ed up. It is a soft cap, as opposed to the B1G hard cap, meaning you have a rule based on the 85, the SEC rule is based upon a cap per class year.

They now review red shirts (the Saban rule), but need to get tougher on grey shirting, as that fluid situation is what leads to the current problem.
 
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MaliBuckeye;2087748; said:

Beaver;2087896; said:
What's even worse is this surprise request worked last year, with a player paying his own way :shake:

Gatorubet;2087960; said:
Ord, the SEC rule allows back counting, which is where LSU f-ed up. It is a soft cap, as opposed to the B1G hard cap, meaning you have a rule based on the 85, the SEC rule is based upon a cap per class year.

They now review red shirts (the Saban rule), but need to get tougher on grey shirting, as that fluid situation is what leads to the current problem.

how is this horse crap?

the rule is you can only have as many early enrollments ans you have scholarship players graduating (as in actually receiving a degree) in the fall.

we had 5 guys graduate this fall, and 5 guys enroll.
had a 6th guy graduated, this kid could have enrolled.

by rule, we can not give this kid a scholly until the fall.
if a kid still wants to go to LSU, and enroll this spring, he has to pay his own way for the spring semester.

some kids choose to pay it, some choose to go to a different school.

by rule, this was out of everyone's hands.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;2087963; said:
Problem?

So you admit the SECs rampant abuse of the intent of NCAA rules regarding recruiting class sizes has provided a decided on-field competitive advantage for the conference?

Finally.

No. You're still all slow. :p
Nutriaitch;2088069; said:
how is this horse crap?

the rule is you can only have as many early enrollments ans you have scholarship players graduating (as in actually receiving a degree) in the fall.

we had 5 guys graduate this fall, and 5 guys enroll.
had a 6th guy graduated, this kid could have enrolled.

by rule, we can not give this kid a scholly until the fall.
if a kid still wants to go to LSU, and enroll this spring, he has to pay his own way for the spring semester.

some kids choose to pay it, some choose to go to a different school.

by rule, this was out of everyone's hands.
What the Hell Nutria, you tell a kid to come to your school, he leaves high school early at your request with the promise of a scholarship, and when he gets there you tell him to pay his own way? There is no rule that says he cannot get a scholarship if you have less than 85 guys and room in a count back.

That is horse[Mark May]. If he was told in advance that he MAY have a scholarship - but the numbers are still up in the air - then it is NOT horse[Mark May].

This sounds like horse[Mark May]
 
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Nutriaitch;2088069; said:
how is this horse crap?

the rule is you can only have as many early enrollments ans you have scholarship players graduating (as in actually receiving a degree) in the fall.

we had 5 guys graduate this fall, and 5 guys enroll.
had a 6th guy graduated, this kid could have enrolled.

by rule, we can not give this kid a scholly until the fall.
if a kid still wants to go to LSU, and enroll this spring, he has to pay his own way for the spring semester.

some kids choose to pay it, some choose to go to a different school.

by rule, this was out of everyone's hands.

So what changed from the time they accepted his commitment and he presumably informed LSU he wanted to enroll early? Did someone not graduate that was expected to do so? I don't understand how the kid gets notice that he'll have to initially pay his way at the 11th hour.
 
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sepia5;2088103; said:
So what changed from the time they accepted his commitment and he presumably informed LSU he wanted to enroll early? Did someone not graduate that was expected to do so? I don't understand how the kid gets notice that he'll have to initially pay his way at the 11th hour.

Depends who you ask.

Lee did not graduate in December like he was supposed to.
He supposedly graduated early Januay after taking his final class in the Winter intersession.


I haven't been able to find the specific rule though.
Only articles stating # of early enrollees can not exceed graduates in December.

If December is the absolute cutoff date, then Lee not graduating leaves us short a spot for an early enrolee.

If the date is just prior to spring semester, then Lee graduating a month late is not to blame.
 
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Nutriaitch;2088144; said:
Depends who you ask.

Lee did not graduate in December like he was supposed to.
He supposedly graduated early Januay after taking his final class in the Winter intersession.


I haven't been able to find the specific rule though.
Only articles stating # of early enrollees can not exceed graduates in December.

If December is the absolute cutoff date, then Lee not graduating leaves us short a spot for an early enrolee.

If the date is just prior to spring semester, then Lee graduating a month late is not to blame.

Well, you liked Gunner Kiel more than Miller is one reason.

Reason two, here is what Miller's coach says:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCYX4ViUKvk"]Jack Daniels on how Pat Miller ended up at Auburn - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Nutriaitch;2088069; said:
how is this horse crap?

the rule is you can only have as many early enrollments ans you have scholarship players graduating (as in actually receiving a degree) in the fall.

we had 5 guys graduate this fall, and 5 guys enroll.
had a 6th guy graduated, this kid could have enrolled.

by rule, we can not give this kid a scholly until the fall.
if a kid still wants to go to LSU, and enroll this spring, he has to pay his own way for the spring semester.

some kids choose to pay it, some choose to go to a different school.

by rule, this was out of everyone's hands.


It's horsecrap because these are STUDENT athletes. They pick their colleges not only to hope for playing time, but to get an education. A lot of these athletes can't afford to go to college without these athletic scholarships. So they sign their LOI with the intent that when they arrive on campus, they can attend both practice and class assured that their scholarship is intact. Yes the scholarship is only good for one year, but most intend on staying to get at least the three years of education at one school.

When players switch schools they get ridiculed (Tate Forcier). When teams switch players, people should be outraged.
 
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