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PG Braxton Beverly (transfer to NC State, transfer to Eastern Kentucky)

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OSU_Buckguy said:
do you really not see the massive difference here? beverly never played in a game for ohio state. braxton never even practiced with his teammates. at most, he had a few hours of training under the staff. that's it. how in the world is that anything at all like deciding to transfer after playing a whole season? it's not even remotely similar.

coaches can change jobs on a whim. the only possible penalty is purely monetary. they're not held out of competing. their destinations for employment aren't restricted. they have free rein. but the players? noooooooooo. not only are they held out for a whole year, but they can -- and usually do -- have their target destinations limited, often out of pure spite.

in my opinion, if transfers are held out of competition for a year, then so should coaches if they change jobs. if transfers are denied a scholarship for one season if they attend a program that the coach blacklists, then the coaches should be denied pay for one year if they go to a school the players blacklist.

but anyway, all beverly did was attend summer school for a few weeks. that's it. he didn't play and he didn't have formal practice. the coach he committed to was fired. that was beyond beverly's control. arguing for the letter of the law while completely denying the spirit of the law is myopic.

what i'd like to see keatts do is play beverly anyway. play him in game one. make a spectacle of the ncaa's absurdity.
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the rules on what he did are, actually, readily available. if you don't want this to happen, don't transfer, or do your due diligence. it's actually a good life lesson, my man.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
the rules on what he did are, actually, readily available. if you don't want this to happen, don't transfer, or do your due diligence. it's actually a good life lesson, my man.
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sorry, my man, but "rules are rules" is a pathetic attempt to validate the decision. what you're essentially saying is that if an incoming freshman attends a single class on the first day of summer school before learning that the program has fired his head coach and effectively all of the staff, then the player should not be permitted to play that season elsewhere. now i'm sure you'll say that it hurts the program to lose incoming recruits and, therefore, the players should be penalized for transferring. well, guess what? don't freakin' fire your coach during the summer. you deserve all the risks that come along with the boneheaded timing.

by the way, if our head coach and the basketball program thought losing beverly was too great a wound, then they wouldn't have released him. also, it's foolish to assume that beverly's decision was solely one-sided.
 
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Maybe more players should be able to transfer and play without restrictions, but with the rules as is, no one should transfer and assume you will be immediately eligible just because there was a coach fired and you weren't in school for very long. If education (not competition) is a version of compensation for players, then they really aren't losing everything by sitting out a year of competition. He has to know there was a way he would have surely been able to play this year if that was his top priority - just stick with OSU and give the new coach a shot. He chose to bail quickly instead.
 
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DZ83CK said:
The rules are the rules, know them before you decide to transfer and don't act like it is a shock.
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if you had actually followed the development, you'd know he understood the rules. he just expected/hoped that the ncaa would recognize the absurdity of being a pedant about the rules.

i'm reminded of work on 315 years ago. because of the construction work, a speed limit of 45 was introduced. the dispatch detailed all of the ticketed speedsters over a number of months. the greatest infraction was for driving well over the speed limit. probably something like 90+. the lowest speed that resulted in a speeding ticket? 48 mph.

sure, going 3 miles per hour over the speed limit is a violation of traffic laws. laws are laws, right? know them before you decide to drive over the speed limit, right? don't act like it is a shock to be ticketed for driving 48 in a 45, right?

the ncaa is that police officer.
 
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Ohio State is fine with letting him go. NC State is fine with receiving him. Beverly is fine with transferring....I really don't see what principle the NCAA is protecting by ruling by the letter of the law, here. He filed a petition, and unless there's something we don't know about, it seems like this would be in the best interest of all involved. I mean, unless Ohio State really didn't want him to leave, which we don't know.
 
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DZ83CK said:
The rules are the rules, know them before you decide to transfer and don't act like it is a shock.
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Braxton went to class for one freaking day. One Freaking Day! and the NCAA declared him ineligible because of that. Stop and think how many NCAA rules are being broken on numerous campuses every single day if you are going to think that a kid should have to sit out an entire year of his life because he went to class at another university for One Freaking Day. That it is just absurd and you agree with the NCAA. Think about it if he was your child and what you would really think about that type of rule. Common sense should prevail every once in a while.
 
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You act like getting a free year of college classes is meaningless. I'm sure from an academic standpoint giving a player a year off of athletic competition is not a negative. If the NCAA values education, it really isn't a total loss.

The NCAA has their rules, the problem in most cases is they don't have enough proof to enforce them, or there is a factual dispute they can't resolve.

LitlBuck said:
Braxton went to class for one freaking day. One Freaking Day! and the NCAA declared him ineligible because of that. Stop and think how many NCAA rules are being broken on numerous campuses every single day if you are going to think that a kid should have to sit out an entire year of his life because he went to class at another university for One Freaking Day. That it is just absurd and you agree with the NCAA. Think about it if he was your child and what you would really think about that type of rule. Common sense should prevail every once in a while.
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OSU_Buckguy said:
sorry, my man, but "rules are rules" is a pathetic attempt to validate the decision. what you're essentially saying is that if an incoming freshman attends a single class on the first day of summer school before learning that the program has fired his head coach and effectively all of the staff, then the player should not be permitted to play that season elsewhere. now i'm sure you'll say that it hurts the program to lose incoming recruits and, therefore, the players should be penalized for transferring. well, guess what? don't freakin' fire your coach during the summer. you deserve all the risks that come along with the boneheaded timing.

by the way, if our head coach and the basketball program thought losing beverly was too great a wound, then they wouldn't have released him. also, it's foolish to assume that beverly's decision was solely one-sided.
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by all means, call up your leader gene smith and chastise him for the "boneheaded timing" my man.
 
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DZ83CK said:
You act like getting a free year of college classes is meaningless. I'm sure from an academic standpoint giving a player a year off of athletic competition is not a negative. If the NCAA values education, it really isn't a total loss.

The NCAA has their rules, the problem in most cases is they don't have enough proof to enforce them, or there is a factual dispute they can't resolve.
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Oh the irony in that statement, after they decided punishing UNC for creating fake classes among many other infractions related to education being broken, was probably not in their best financial interest. :lol:

Face it, the NCAA only cares about one thing. Continuing to capitalize off of kids athletic abilities.
 
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