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Proof of the Existence of God

Taosman;2281557; said:
Where does the energy go from a battery?
http://blog.laptopmag.com/amd-cries-foul-but-tests-show-battery-life-inferior-to-intels/amd-vs-intel[/QUOTE

Ironic that you chose that example, yet, despite yourself, you are correct.

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form. Electrical energy is only converted into some other form of energy such as force, light, or heat. The energy from a battery will only dissipate to ground or is used to convert to some other form. Lets say your battery has a dead cell. The energy is going to ground in this case. But even with no problem the battery will eventually run down. Self discharge. Batteries do it, people do it. Dead, well, is dead. It doesn't mean it is the end, but it most certainly is AN end.

Either way, it doesn't mean there is a god.
 
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Just heard the story of Jesus birth again. A story delivered by Angels, not tweets or text, a story that has been denied ..many times. Yet that story is retold every year over and over,,plagues, wars, murders, hatred,,nothing ever stops this story. Yes I believe in God..his existence has been denied again and again and no matter what men do the 'Good News" prevails. Guess what God was at Sandy Hook with the teachers and those children..and now they are no longer in pain but with him. This had been repeated over and over..deny all you want but those that do believe will never tire of God.
 
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Onebuckfan;2281591; said:
Just heard the story of Jesus birth again. A story delivered by Angels, not tweets or text, a story that has been denied ..many times. Yet that story is retold every year over and over,,plagues, wars, murders, hatred,,nothing ever stops this story. Yes I believe in God..his existence has been denied again and again and no matter what men do the 'Good News" prevails. Guess what God was at Sandy Hook with the teachers and those children..and now they are no longer in pain but with him. This had been repeated over and over..deny all you want but those that do believe will never tire of God.
All you'll have are your precious stories when the Dark Lord rises and your king is dethroned.
 
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Onebuckfan;2281591; said:
Just heard the story of Jesus birth again. A story delivered by Angels, not tweets or text, a story that has been denied ..many times. Yet that story is retold every year over and over,,plagues, wars, murders, hatred,,nothing ever stops this story. Yes I believe in God..his existence has been denied again and again and no matter what men do the 'Good News" prevails. Guess what God was at Sandy Hook with the teachers and those children..and now they are no longer in pain but with him. This had been repeated over and over..deny all you want but those that do believe will never tire of God.

Onebuckfan;2281729; said:
A great light came into the world 2000 years ago..Prince of Darkness cowers in fear from the light.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the thread.
 
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Muck;2287954; said:
I always found the Jewish views on The Adversary/HaSatan far more interesting (ie his job is as the adversary of mankind).

Agreed. However, I like the portion that considers even less of a personification, but instead, a allegory of sorts for the yetzer hara (evil inclination) that we all deal with.
 
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In a much more serious post and with legitimate pre coffee research into finding this, I believe I have found photographic evidence of the proof of Jesus Christ walking on Earth this past spring / summer, possibly an invisible or cloaked version of Jesus, walking on water on Google Maps.

Here is a link to that map on google maps, judge for yourself.

http://goo.gl/maps/1C3CX
 
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muffler dragon;2288001; said:
Agreed. However, I like the portion that considers even less of a personification, but instead, a allegory of sorts for the yetzer hara (evil inclination) that we all deal with.

What about Saban?
 
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The following article made me happy as it describes my POV when it comes to belief in G-d while being scientifically minded. I sincerely hope that this paints a clearer picture for Brewtus on some of the stuff that I've written in the past.

http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2013/04/richard-feynman-how-scientists-can-believe-in-god.html

Richard Feynman on How Scientists Can Believe in God

Posted by Ross Pomeroy at Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:38:51
On May 2nd, 1956, acclaimed theoretical physicist Richard Feyman gave a lunchtime talk at the California Institute of Technology. The relation between science and religion was on the docket that day. To organize his thoughts, Feynman wove what may be a familiar story:

A young man, brought up in a religious family, studies a science, and as a result he comes to doubt -- and perhaps later to disbelieve in -- his father's God. Now, this is not an isolated example; it happens time and time again. Although I have no statistics on this, I believe that many scientists -- in fact, I actually believe that more than half of the scientists -- really disbelieve in their father's God; that is, they don't believe in a God in a conventional sense.
Feynman's words prompt a key question: Are all true scientists destined to become atheists? The answer, I believe, is no, or at least that doesn't seem to be the case judging by statistics.

Still, how is it that faith and science can co-exist? According to Feynman, the answer to this question lies in recognizing the limits of science:

I do not believe that science can disprove the existence of God; I think that is impossible. And if it is impossible, is not a belief in science and in a God -- an ordinary God of religion -- a consistent possibility?
Feynman responds to his query:

Yes, it is consistent. Despite the fact that I said that more than half of the scientists don't believe in God, many scientists do believe in both science and God, in a perfectly consistent way. But this consistency, although possible, is not easy to attain...
Here, Feynman is in agreement with other notable scientific minds, including Carl Sagan and Albert Einstein. Where evidence is lacking, concrete proof cannot be attained. Thus -- at this time -- we cannot conclude that God exists, but we also cannot conclude that God does not.

But that still doesn't answer how scientists can believe in both science and God. Ruminating further, Feynman returned to his example of the young scientist, whose skepticism is now flourishing:

What happens, then, is that the young man begins to doubt everything because he cannot have it as absolute truth. So the question changes a little bit from "Is there a God?" to "How sure is it that there is a God?" This very subtle change is a great stroke and represents a parting of the ways between science and religion.
From this parting of the ways, an opening is presented for scientists to reconcile their work with their faith. That opening is uncertainty. Firmly in the realm of science, uncertainty -- essentially acknowledged ignorance -- is the scientist's key to a legitimate belief in God:

If they are consistent with their science, I think that they say something like this to themselves: "I am almost certain there is a God. The doubt is very small." That is quite different from saying, "I know that there is a God." I do not believe that a scientist can ever obtain that view - that really religious understanding, that real knowledge that there is a God - that absolute certainty which religious people have.
Admitting uncertainty not only bridges the divide between science and religion, but also -- I believe -- can do the same when applied to a great many of life's seemingly perpetual disputes.

I think that when we know that we actually do live in uncertainty, then we ought to admit it; it is of great value to realize that we do not know the answers to different questions.
 
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