The conference awards have always been weird.
Makes me wonder who will get COTY this time... I'm betting on Scott Frost.
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The conference awards have always been weird.
Makes me wonder who will get COTY this time... I'm betting on Scott Frost.
Iowa has just 1 loss so we can't count them out yet.
But if I'm being semi-serious... I'd guess Tom Allen right now. Can't see him holding onto it through the season though.
If PJ Fleck can get pass Ferentz or Chryst, he's a shoe-in.
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MARVYMARV14
Hall of Fame
Haskins proved to me the only thing I needed to see from him to seal the deal....and that is that he can deal with excruciating adversity and keep getting up/coming back and keep playing through it until things start to go right, Im not down on Dwayne at all after this past weekend, to me his stock is still going up.
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Head Coach
I hope it is Farentz. I hope Iowa only has one loss and we see them in the B1G Championship game. I hope we drop 70 while somehow holding them to -23 points.
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BuckeyeBiz
All-American
I agree completely! There was a combination of things that got him rattled in the first half (environment, game plan, pass protection, PSU playing out of their minds, drops) and it would have shaken virtually any young QB. The staff made some adjustments, running game picked up, OL provided better pass protection and he started getting into a groove. He kept grinding and showed grit. To become a legend you’ve got to deal with some blows and fortunately for us we came out on top and it was only after his 5th start! Stock still rising...
I feel a tad more confident he’ll come back for 19 but still early to tell. I’ve heard from pro analysts that the 19 QB draft class is already a bit crowded and at odds with less teams looking to fill QB slots in the first 3 rounds. Supply > demand = come back for more gold pants, hardware and great times in college
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OSUK
Sometimes lucid, mostly confused
Urban has said repeatedly that "the QB is a product of those around him". That's mostly true. A QB with innate traits like the right mindset, temperament, and physical skills is also a factor. You could put me out there and I won't perform as well as DH - despite having the same people around me. Lol.
Some of the people around the QB are coaches. They develop the game plan and scheme. In 2014 VT threw that Bear front at JTB and the Buckeyes were never able to adjust to it. Was that because of JT's innate traits or the coaches' inability to get the right adjustments executed? I don't know.
In this game, Penn State's defensive coaches knew that they couldn't be vanilla or DH would kill them, so they went with high risk/high reward aggression. OSU needed one or two plays in the first half to make them pay, create doubt, and back them off. They couldn't get it done, but it finally happened in the 4th qtr. I don't sense that DH transformed or that Day and Wilson finally recognized that the screen was the answer, but rather that PSU was overdue to pay the consequences of what they were doing.
But Haskins had to keep his cool, keep believing in himself, his teammates, and his coaches, and be patient - and he did that. THAT is going to serve him and this team well going forward.
Some of the people around the QB are coaches. They develop the game plan and scheme. In 2014 VT threw that Bear front at JTB and the Buckeyes were never able to adjust to it. Was that because of JT's innate traits or the coaches' inability to get the right adjustments executed? I don't know.
In this game, Penn State's defensive coaches knew that they couldn't be vanilla or DH would kill them, so they went with high risk/high reward aggression. OSU needed one or two plays in the first half to make them pay, create doubt, and back them off. They couldn't get it done, but it finally happened in the 4th qtr. I don't sense that DH transformed or that Day and Wilson finally recognized that the screen was the answer, but rather that PSU was overdue to pay the consequences of what they were doing.
But Haskins had to keep his cool, keep believing in himself, his teammates, and his coaches, and be patient - and he did that. THAT is going to serve him and this team well going forward.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Football: Dwayne Haskins learns how to respond to adversity
Dwayne Haskins walked into Beaver Stadium like a heavyweight boxer walking into a ring.
With a camera in front of his face, Ohio State’s redshirt sophomore quarterback threw punches, hyping himself up, displaying confidence. Ohio State hadn’t really seen this before from its starter, as Haskins carried himself in the same way Penn State redshirt senior quarterback Trace McSorley has done his entire career, and did against the Buckeyes on Saturday.
After lining up for the first time in a shotgun set, Haskins showed that confidence, rolling out to the right and finding junior wide receiver Austin Mack on an outside curl route, giving him a quick first down and, seemingly, momentum.
Haskins sped up the pace, getting to the 30-yard line for the second play. The ball was snapped and he quickly fired one towards redshirt senior Parris Campbell on the left side for a screen pass.
The ball was dropped. The momentum was gone. Haskins started to slump.
For the first time in his Ohio State career, Haskins faced adversity. He had the opportunity to define what his response to that adversity would be, what play-calling he would lean to in those times of high pressure.
Against Penn State, the adversity did not begin because of Haskins.
Reminiscent of Mack’s performance against TCU, Ohio State receivers dropped three passes in the first quarter, including a ball off the hands of redshirt junior tight end Rashod Berry that ended up being Haskins’ second interception of the season.
With the combination of mistakes from Ohio State receivers and a consistent pass rush by the Penn State defensive line, a unit averaging 3.2 sacks per game, the confidence that Haskins came into the stadium with was not there.
From there, Ohio State recorded five three-and-outs on its first eight drives.
Offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Ryan Day said he had to encourage Haskins as he struggled in the first half.
“It’s his first time going through it. Just talking to him, ‘Hey, you are playing good.’ I thought the ball to Rashod [Berry] was a good throw,” Day said. “I thought he was managing the game well even though it didn’t feel like it at the time.”
Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2018/10/football-dwayne-haskins-learns-how-to-respond-to-adversity/
Dwayne Haskins walked into Beaver Stadium like a heavyweight boxer walking into a ring.
With a camera in front of his face, Ohio State’s redshirt sophomore quarterback threw punches, hyping himself up, displaying confidence. Ohio State hadn’t really seen this before from its starter, as Haskins carried himself in the same way Penn State redshirt senior quarterback Trace McSorley has done his entire career, and did against the Buckeyes on Saturday.
After lining up for the first time in a shotgun set, Haskins showed that confidence, rolling out to the right and finding junior wide receiver Austin Mack on an outside curl route, giving him a quick first down and, seemingly, momentum.
Haskins sped up the pace, getting to the 30-yard line for the second play. The ball was snapped and he quickly fired one towards redshirt senior Parris Campbell on the left side for a screen pass.
The ball was dropped. The momentum was gone. Haskins started to slump.
For the first time in his Ohio State career, Haskins faced adversity. He had the opportunity to define what his response to that adversity would be, what play-calling he would lean to in those times of high pressure.
Against Penn State, the adversity did not begin because of Haskins.
Reminiscent of Mack’s performance against TCU, Ohio State receivers dropped three passes in the first quarter, including a ball off the hands of redshirt junior tight end Rashod Berry that ended up being Haskins’ second interception of the season.
With the combination of mistakes from Ohio State receivers and a consistent pass rush by the Penn State defensive line, a unit averaging 3.2 sacks per game, the confidence that Haskins came into the stadium with was not there.
From there, Ohio State recorded five three-and-outs on its first eight drives.
Offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Ryan Day said he had to encourage Haskins as he struggled in the first half.
“It’s his first time going through it. Just talking to him, ‘Hey, you are playing good.’ I thought the ball to Rashod [Berry] was a good throw,” Day said. “I thought he was managing the game well even though it didn’t feel like it at the time.”
Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2018/10/football-dwayne-haskins-learns-how-to-respond-to-adversity/
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So now this kid has seen a second half up in AA, the TCU neutral site game and a Happy Valley White out.
Combined for those 3 games:
3-0
52/84 (61.9%)
708 yards (8.43 yards per attempt)
5TD/1INT (int was a deflection that should have been caught)
8.4 ypa would be a top 25 kind of number for a team for the season (against tomato can opponents and tough ones). He's put those numbers up in the biggest pressure games he's been able to face so far in his career.
He's been blooded, the moment is not too big for him.
Combined for those 3 games:
3-0
52/84 (61.9%)
708 yards (8.43 yards per attempt)
5TD/1INT (int was a deflection that should have been caught)
8.4 ypa would be a top 25 kind of number for a team for the season (against tomato can opponents and tough ones). He's put those numbers up in the biggest pressure games he's been able to face so far in his career.
He's been blooded, the moment is not too big for him.
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Tanner
Legend
All those screen passes/ short passes almost brought a tear to my eye. That's what I thought was going to be the biggest different between him and JT, not the deep ball. Just get the ball out on time and accurately into someone's hands who will have an athleticism advantage against 90% of the people he plays. I love Braxton and JT to death, but man it could frustrating at times to watch them throw some of the passes they threw.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
OHIO STATE NOTEBOOK: URBAN MEYER DECRIES TEAM'S DEPTH, DWAYNE HASKINS PROGRESSES IN HAPPY VALLEY AND "THE FUTURE" AT DEFENSIVE END
WHAT DWAYNE HASKINS LEARNED FROM PENN STATE
For four weeks, Dwayne Haskins could seemingly do no wrong. The first-year starting quarterback pushed himself into Heisman Trophy contention by dispatching Oregon State, Rutgers, TCU and Tulane. He barely even played in the second half against the Beavers, Scarlet Knights and Greene Wave with his team pulling ahead for significant first-half leads.
In the first half of Saturday’s win against Penn State, Haskins struggled mightily to find a rhythm and move the ball for the first time in his short career.
The Buckeyes managed just seven first-half points and Haskins had only 62 passing yards in the opening two quarters. He had a stretch early in the game during which he threw seven incompletions in eight passes. Haskins, though, persevered and finished the game 22 of 39 for 270 yards with three touchdowns and an interception.
“The crucible of training, the heart, the toughness, the difficult situations helps you get through it,” Meyer said. “To come out the other end with the win, of course that helps him. He's been in some big-time environments now, twice on the road against top-15 teams, last year against a top team on the road against our rival.
“Those are all just growing, we say around here, growing whiskers and they're getting scars. That's what happens. It's something you can't teach in practice.”
Nothing K.J. Hill saw from his quarterback surprised him. He said he knew Haskins was tough and he had seen the poise. What mattered to Hill, though, was how the Penn State comeback will help him in the future, noting Haskins “grew as a player.”
“He's definitely going to need it for games on down the line and in his career, period,” Hill said.
Haskins believes Ohio State will not play in front of a rowdier, more intimidating environment than Penn State for at least the rest of the season. With road trips to Michigan State, Maryland and Purdue remaining, he’s almost certainly correct.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ne-haskins-progresses-in-happy-valley-and-the
WHAT DWAYNE HASKINS LEARNED FROM PENN STATE
For four weeks, Dwayne Haskins could seemingly do no wrong. The first-year starting quarterback pushed himself into Heisman Trophy contention by dispatching Oregon State, Rutgers, TCU and Tulane. He barely even played in the second half against the Beavers, Scarlet Knights and Greene Wave with his team pulling ahead for significant first-half leads.
In the first half of Saturday’s win against Penn State, Haskins struggled mightily to find a rhythm and move the ball for the first time in his short career.
The Buckeyes managed just seven first-half points and Haskins had only 62 passing yards in the opening two quarters. He had a stretch early in the game during which he threw seven incompletions in eight passes. Haskins, though, persevered and finished the game 22 of 39 for 270 yards with three touchdowns and an interception.
“The crucible of training, the heart, the toughness, the difficult situations helps you get through it,” Meyer said. “To come out the other end with the win, of course that helps him. He's been in some big-time environments now, twice on the road against top-15 teams, last year against a top team on the road against our rival.
“Those are all just growing, we say around here, growing whiskers and they're getting scars. That's what happens. It's something you can't teach in practice.”
Nothing K.J. Hill saw from his quarterback surprised him. He said he knew Haskins was tough and he had seen the poise. What mattered to Hill, though, was how the Penn State comeback will help him in the future, noting Haskins “grew as a player.”
“He's definitely going to need it for games on down the line and in his career, period,” Hill said.
Haskins believes Ohio State will not play in front of a rowdier, more intimidating environment than Penn State for at least the rest of the season. With road trips to Michigan State, Maryland and Purdue remaining, he’s almost certainly correct.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ne-haskins-progresses-in-happy-valley-and-the
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ScriptOhio
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JOE BURROW TWEETS HIS SUPPORT FOR DWAYNE HASKINS' HEISMAN CAMPAIGN
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...s-support-for-dwayne-haskins-heisman-campaign
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...s-support-for-dwayne-haskins-heisman-campaign
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At the half-way point of the 2018 regular season:
142 for 198
1919 yards
25 TD 4 INT
Rating: 190.7556
And a very, very nervous Ohio State Record Book
142 for 198
1919 yards
25 TD 4 INT
Rating: 190.7556
And a very, very nervous Ohio State Record Book
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