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QB Dwayne Haskins Jr. (2018- B1G OFF Player of Yr, Silver Football, B1G Champ MVP, Heisman Finalist)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by MD Buckeye, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    The only mystery is...did more people vote while ESPN was telling them Tua was Jesus, or after the SEC game.
     
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  2. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member

    Take Haskins/Murray off their squads, and they lose 3 more games at a minimum. Does Bama lose a single game with Hurts? Doubtful.
     
  3. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    uhm.. we know OU wouldn’t lose more than a game... see last year with a different QB....
     
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  4. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member

    Riley's system is stellar, but that QB didn't get to the league and then have his comeuppance. He's doing pretty well, on the freaking Browns.
     
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  5. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    I’ll add the word YET (lots of folks look great the first year) anyways I digress..

    to me if you take one QB out and put another in and puts up similar numbers then to be fair its a system... Riley’s system is really good and both Baker and Kyler are really good but if you remove one or the other there’s been 0 change .... JT to Haskins to Martell... night and day... Tua to Hurts night and day but I have a feeling most of us could make those throws...
     
  6. zincfinger

    zincfinger Gert Frobe-approved

    Accurate.
     
  7. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    Kyler was a 5 star prospect and an incredibly gifted professional athlete. It's not that hard to believe he's more than a system player
     
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  8. MGMT

    MGMT Junior

    If Murray wins, what was the last school to produce consecutive Heisman winners wherein the winners are different quarterbacks?

    I know USC had Bush/Leinart but consecutive quarterbacks is rather remarkable.
     
  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    No school has done that. Closest was USC with Palmer in 2002 and Leinart in 2004.
     
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  10. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun

    The answer would be none.

    Closest was USC having QB's win it in '02 and '04 with Palmer/Leinart

    EDIT

    Although USC had 3 straight years of a running back

    1979 USC Charles White
    1980 USC (east) George Rodgers
    1981 USC Marcus Allen
     
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  11. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member

    Tua is 5-7 rounds better than Hurts, but they can win with both.
    Oklahoma won by a tiny margin in 4 straight games. Do they pull all of those out with their next guy? Hard to say.

    It's not hard to say whether Tate could maintain this level of success, particularly since him starting under Urban would likely require 200-300 hits on his smaller frame.
     
  12. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    I get it he’s a 5*... here are Bakers stats passing
    55B4C4AA-8A31-4639-B0EC-1D89708CB5E6.jpeg
    rushing and receiving
    059E3BBA-A2B2-4C4B-AEDA-C825C46E9BF3.jpeg and Kylers stats
    passing
    F5C4DFD0-4683-462D-995A-95C94C489CCC.jpeg
    rushing and receiving
    A0A548B7-1921-47FC-9971-A2122DFF23A5.jpeg

    yes there is still one game to be played...Kyler is a talent but lets not act like there aren’t a lot of QBs who could do what he did in that offense. Baker was a walk on did that.. Just saying that when 2 different QBs put up ~ the same numbers in back to back years... there is a “schematic advantage”
     
  13. Bestbuck36

    Bestbuck36 Urban Renewal Project

    Also known as Big12 Defenses
     
  14. mendensa

    mendensa Senior

    I think I heard during the BIG 10 CG broadcast, which was the last of the CCG's that evening, that 10% of the votes had been casted already. I don't understand why that number isn't 0% and why voters don't wait until all the games have been completed and the statistics and team records are set before casting a vote, especially in the games that matter the most. Unless you are on the CFP committee, of course, and they don't mean anything at all. Or maybe Tua's numbers in week 11 vs. the Citadel were convincing enough to hold off Murray? I had to get another jab in there....lol.
     
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  15. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    Votes had to be submitted by late Tuesday afternoon.
     

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