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QB Dwayne Haskins Jr. (All B1G, B1G OPOY, Silver Football, Rose Bowl MVP, R.I.P.)

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IMO, this kid is the perfect change of pace QB to come in of something happens to Barrett.

Looks like a skinny, inexperienced Cardale Jones to me.

He has 3 more very good chances at real game time and a bye week to help him get ready.
 
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MDino51 said:
What do you think his bad qualities are? And I'm honestly open to hearing them. Obviously the pick six, maybe he gets a little too brave with his arm? I just find it hard to not believe in his skills when he is with the first team on the field, but maybe I'm not watching closely enough
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Only thing I can say is experience in games against opposing first team defenses, possible leadership(I'm guessing because I haven't seen him with the first team) and decision making(staring down the TE on that interception). Now I'm not saying that any of these aren't and can't be corrected. But you asked, so I answered. Lol
 
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MDino51 said:
What do you think his bad qualities are? And I'm honestly open to hearing them. Obviously the pick six, maybe he gets a little too brave with his arm? I just find it hard to not believe in his skills when he is with the first team on the field, but maybe I'm not watching closely enough
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A few passes before the pick 6 he seemed more like a backup to me. Balls were off. This was after he threw some absolutely brilliant throws, though.

JT doesn't throw that pick 6, because he doesn't throw anything with any amount of risk. I'll take a sack over a pick 6 every day.....but JT seems too cautious, so I'm with you there. I just saw some rawness from Haskins (which is to be expected) after his initial great play.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
A few passes before the pick 6 he seemed more like a backup to me. Balls were off. This was after he threw some absolutely brilliant throws, though.

JT doesn't throw that pick 6, because he doesn't throw anything with any amount of risk. I'll take a sack over a pick 6 every day.....but JT seems too cautious, so I'm with you there. I just saw some rawness from Haskins (which is to be expected) after his initial great play.
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It looked like he threw the ones that were off from the back foot w/o stepping into them. Easily fixable.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
A few passes before the pick 6 he seemed more like a backup to me. Balls were off. This was after he threw some absolutely brilliant throws, though.

JT doesn't throw that pick 6, because he doesn't throw anything with any amount of risk. I'll take a sack over a pick 6 every day.....but JT seems too cautious, so I'm with you there. I just saw some rawness from Haskins (which is to be expected) after his initial great play.
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He missed Williams for a TD on the FG drive cause he tried to throw it on a line rather then loft it with touch. The next throw I don't know where he was throwing as he airmailed everyone by 10 ft. I don't know if he was throwing it away out the back of the endzone or it just slipped.
 
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Touch and decision making are his worst traits at this point but that is all about experience most likely. Guys with rocket arms are often over confident in their throws which makes them think they can make every single throw even when they shouldn't. The touch is going to take a lot of practice. One swing to the back I was thinking he needed to cool it down also along with the aforementioned TD to Williams.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
A few passes before the pick 6 he seemed more like a backup to me. Balls were off. This was after he threw some absolutely brilliant throws, though.

JT doesn't throw that pick 6, because he doesn't throw anything with any amount of risk. I'll take a sack over a pick 6 every day.....but JT seems too cautious, so I'm with you there. I just saw some rawness from Haskins (which is to be expected) after his initial great play.
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The pass that bothered me was the checkdown he rifled 100mph to a receiver 15 yards away. Looks to me like he's got one pitch, so he'll remain a closer out of the bullpen until he figures it out.
 
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Dryden said:
The pass that bothered me was the checkdown he rifled 100mph to a receiver 15 yards away. Looks to me like he's got one pitch, so he'll remain a closer out of the bullpen until he figures it out.
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Yup... always one of the hardest things that I have to teach in lacrosse that the guy throwing the ball is equally responsible for throwing a catchable ball as the guy catching it. Generally it comes with experience and relationships with the guy catching the ball. Thankfully, in FB it's really only the QB -- absent an over the fade pass in the endzone from a WR once and a while -- that needs to worry about it.

Watching the post practice reps that Simba was taking a cople of weeks ago, he's got touch. He will just need to work on knowing when to throw with touch or throw on a rope.

The future remains bright.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
A few passes before the pick 6 he seemed more like a backup to me. Balls were off. This was after he threw some absolutely brilliant throws, though.

JT doesn't throw that pick 6, because he doesn't throw anything with any amount of risk. I'll take a sack over a pick 6 every day.....but JT seems too cautious, so I'm with you there. I just saw some rawness from Haskins (which is to be expected) after his initial great play.
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That's a fair assessment, I agree. More tape on Haskins will come, as it also will for JT....
 
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dragurd said:
He missed Williams for a TD on the FG drive cause he tried to throw it on a line rather then loft it with touch. The next throw I don't know where he was throwing as he airmailed everyone by 10 ft. I don't know if he was throwing it away out the back of the endzone or it just slipped.
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It's easy to point out everything when you are looking at him under a microscope. I know there's a ton of hype around him, you are tryin knit pick a QB who's put 13 of his 1st 13 passes on the money. He's only played just over 2 quarters and is completing 70% of his passes for 270 yds and 2 TDs (not playing against the best competition but is also playing with young receivers too). My biggest takeaways from Haskins are the YACs, he hit Saunders and Berry multiple times so they make plays after the catch! Him getting the ball to receivers in stride is why they Saunders and Berry are looking great! The throw to Williams should have either been thrown to him on a line right away or lofted later but at the time he saw the defender closing and tried to throw it where williams caught it or no one did. The next pass he also had late pressure in his face and maybe he didn't like the guys underneath of the route and just tossed in away. He is adjusting his velocity because he could obviously throw it 35 yds flat footed on a line, if he threw it as hard as he did on that one he'd throw it through every receiver. He's throwing catchable balls on time to receivers in stride allowing them to make plays after the catch. He showed unbelievable touch on the deep corner route to Saunders.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Here's the thing. Sitting here today if tOSU is down by 28 points mid way through the 3rd quarter. Who do you want leading a comeback?

We know JT won't be rattled but can he win with his arm?
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No good answer to being down 28 mid 3rd quarter ever but especially this year.

I guess I'd rather have Barrett hitting the short stuff that the defense will be giving you in that scenario than seeing the inexperienced freshman throwing into the teeth of the coverage.

The rough math of the equation is 40%. Do you think the short pass to the athletes has a 40+% chance of success? We know that having Barrett drop back and hit a guy 15+ yards downfield is a sub 40% proposition.
 
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Just thought it was an interesting thing to consider. JT just doesn't have the arm to sling his was to a comeback. Even if it's 17-21 points down. When posting the question I was thinking of Josh Rosen early this year. Can't recall how far in the hole they were. And I'm not sure DH has the experience and poise to do anything close to that. Was just meant to compare his skills to JT. I have a hard time seeing us winning very many important games with JTs limited abilities. Yeah he beat TTUN at home last year but ran into a brick wall at Clemson and again with OU. You just can't hardly win anymore being so one dimensional.
 
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His first career TD throw. I mean.........what does the offense look like with this wrinkle? Are you kidding me? Talk about unstoppable. I guess that's what makes everyone so uptight is there is a ton of potential on this offense waiting to be released.

 
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Jaxbuck said:
No good answer to being down 28 mid 3rd quarter ever but especially this year.

I guess I'd rather have Barrett hitting the short stuff that the defense will be giving you in that scenario than seeing the inexperienced freshman throwing into the teeth of the coverage.

The rough math of the equation is 40%. Do you think the short pass to the athletes has a 40+% chance of success? We know that having Barrett drop back and hit a guy 15+ yards downfield is a sub 40% proposition.
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Man, I just don't know. With Barrett it's like the defense knows we aren't even bothering with anything more than 8 yards down field. Stuff the box to eliminate the run (would we be running down 4 scores?) and just wait for the stupid play calls off short field roll outs and bubble screens to covered receivers and all of a sudden it's 3rd and long and we're about to punt again. I'm not saying I'd pick Haskins in that scenario....but I'm not 100% picking JT either.
 
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