is it limited or are our playcallers just not that good when presented with a decent defense/staff opposite them? asking for a friend
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is it limited or are our playcallers just not that good when presented with a decent defense/staff opposite them? asking for a friend
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I get that JT is a good to great QB for this system, I dont' understand why they dont let him call checks at the line... give him 3 plays.. the original play, then a run option and a pass option. Let him decide based on what the Defense is doing. instead of this hurry up and get set then look over to the sidelines shit. JT is a smart guy and QB. I dont think this would be too much for him to handle.
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So thats a cute way of saying either the Coaches dont trust/didn't prepare Barrett, or Barrett isn't good enough to read a defense and try to get them in the right plays..
Why wouldn't you trust them against teams like BG or Tulsa... thats the reason for those teams being on the schedule. I personally think given the option Barrett probably would have been able to get us in better plays than the coaches during Penn State if he had been given the option and had been doing it all year.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
I don't disagree with you, but in high stakes football you're not going to find too many coaches who are willing to let someone - even someone who, as Herbie put it on Saturday, "...is like having your OC on the field playing quarterback..." call the plays. I mean how many 7 figure jobs are there? Not many.
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Poe McKnoe
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There really shouldn't be a need considering plays are signaled in on the spot. Let your QB determine the coverage.
Speaking of, shifting a WR can often help the QB determine zone or man. So they're not helping 1) identify coverages 2) help against blitzes with snap count 3) leave additional blockers in or chipping defenders before routes and 4) not using misdirection
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ScriptOhio
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J.T. Barrett Didn't Quite Invoke Woody but Sounded A Little Like Him
You're probably thinking that the mention of Woody Hayes is click-bait. To be honest, I'm not above that kind of cheap tactic, but listening to J.T. Barrett respond to questions about the OSU passing game this week brought Woody to mind. It really did.
Woody famously believed that "three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad."
There is debate as to whether he originated that phrase, but there can be no debate that he believed it. Woody turned to the pass as begrudgingly as today's wireless companies hand out unlimited data plans. They do it only under extreme pressure and duress.
That's how Woody was with the forward pass. Consider this: in 1972 in an 11-game schedule OSU's leading receiver was Rich Galbos with 11 receptions. For the season the Buckeyes attempted 121 passes, or 11 a game. In case you don't remember, that was pretty typical for a Woody Hayes offense.
That approach would probably get him fired today, and he wasn't particularly popular for his disdain of the pass in his day, but that's what he believed.
When it came to the forward pass, better safe than sorry.
On Monday reporters were pretty direct with their questions to J. T. Barrett regarding the OSU passing game, or rather lack of it, against Penn State. Barrett channeled his inner Woody with his answer.
"If you see a safety or corner 15 yards off that takes away a deep shot. That makes sense, right? They’re playing really far off of us, so if you want to take a shot, I don’t know how to answer that, because if you watch it they’re playing 10 yards off and want you to throw it underneath, so that’s what I’m going to do as a quarterback. I’m not going to force anything."
Better safe than sorry, just like Woody.
There is no lack of critics, including most of the reporters who were questioning Barrett, who will say that the real problem is with the receivers who are not getting open. That's no swipe at those reporters. The questions are fair and appropriate, but Barrett offered a different opinion.
"I think it’s all about perspective," said Barrett.
"I know you all are not in tune on what we actually see as far as practice or even games and game planning. You don’t know about that, so I think it’s the perspective you have which is probably okay, but I think when you ask questions it’s just that you don’t know, so I just do my best to explain," Barrett said.
Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...te-Invoke-Woody-but-Sounded-A-Little-Like-Him
You're probably thinking that the mention of Woody Hayes is click-bait. To be honest, I'm not above that kind of cheap tactic, but listening to J.T. Barrett respond to questions about the OSU passing game this week brought Woody to mind. It really did.
Woody famously believed that "three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad."
There is debate as to whether he originated that phrase, but there can be no debate that he believed it. Woody turned to the pass as begrudgingly as today's wireless companies hand out unlimited data plans. They do it only under extreme pressure and duress.
That's how Woody was with the forward pass. Consider this: in 1972 in an 11-game schedule OSU's leading receiver was Rich Galbos with 11 receptions. For the season the Buckeyes attempted 121 passes, or 11 a game. In case you don't remember, that was pretty typical for a Woody Hayes offense.
That approach would probably get him fired today, and he wasn't particularly popular for his disdain of the pass in his day, but that's what he believed.
When it came to the forward pass, better safe than sorry.
On Monday reporters were pretty direct with their questions to J. T. Barrett regarding the OSU passing game, or rather lack of it, against Penn State. Barrett channeled his inner Woody with his answer.
"If you see a safety or corner 15 yards off that takes away a deep shot. That makes sense, right? They’re playing really far off of us, so if you want to take a shot, I don’t know how to answer that, because if you watch it they’re playing 10 yards off and want you to throw it underneath, so that’s what I’m going to do as a quarterback. I’m not going to force anything."
Better safe than sorry, just like Woody.
There is no lack of critics, including most of the reporters who were questioning Barrett, who will say that the real problem is with the receivers who are not getting open. That's no swipe at those reporters. The questions are fair and appropriate, but Barrett offered a different opinion.
"I think it’s all about perspective," said Barrett.
"I know you all are not in tune on what we actually see as far as practice or even games and game planning. You don’t know about that, so I think it’s the perspective you have which is probably okay, but I think when you ask questions it’s just that you don’t know, so I just do my best to explain," Barrett said.
Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...te-Invoke-Woody-but-Sounded-A-Little-Like-Him
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ScriptOhio
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TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF OHIO STATE QUARTERBACK J.T. BARRETT'S UNCANNY ABILITY TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING
J.T. Barrett took the snap then stood tall in the pocket until he no longer could.
Nebraska’s pass rush came around the edge and applied some pressure on Ohio State’s starting quarterback. It looked as if Barrett had no place to go, that he’d be sacked on this third-down play and the Buckeyes would be forced to settle for a field goal.
Then, a J.T. Barrett thing happened.
The redshirt junior signal caller danced around a bit, retreated and then rolled to his left left. Barrett’s eyes were glued to the end zone from the moment he broke outside the pocket, then he reared back and fired a pass across his body. Terry McLaurin caught it for an Ohio State touchdown.
It went from a potential bad play — taking a sack on third-and-goal — to a great play in a matter of seconds. That’s just the way Barrett likes it.
“He’s really good,” Buckeyes head coach Urban Meyer says. “He’s strong is what he is. He’s very strong and twitched up and he’s amazing at some of that. He gets out of those things.”
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...anny-ability-to-make-something-out-of-nothing
J.T. Barrett took the snap then stood tall in the pocket until he no longer could.
Nebraska’s pass rush came around the edge and applied some pressure on Ohio State’s starting quarterback. It looked as if Barrett had no place to go, that he’d be sacked on this third-down play and the Buckeyes would be forced to settle for a field goal.
Then, a J.T. Barrett thing happened.
The redshirt junior signal caller danced around a bit, retreated and then rolled to his left left. Barrett’s eyes were glued to the end zone from the moment he broke outside the pocket, then he reared back and fired a pass across his body. Terry McLaurin caught it for an Ohio State touchdown.
It went from a potential bad play — taking a sack on third-and-goal — to a great play in a matter of seconds. That’s just the way Barrett likes it.
“He’s really good,” Buckeyes head coach Urban Meyer says. “He’s strong is what he is. He’s very strong and twitched up and he’s amazing at some of that. He gets out of those things.”
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...anny-ability-to-make-something-out-of-nothing
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Buckeye Breakdown: Through the Eyes of J.T. Barrett
This edition of Buckeye Breakdown: Through The Eyes of J.T. Barrett illustrates the decisions made by the coaching staff, and Barrett, that opened up the passing lanes against a Cover 3 or Cover 4 look. Says Barrett, “They were playing aggressive with the safeties once again. That’s when we get shot plays, when they’re aggressive with the safeties. We came out at halftime and we scored on the first play. Then they went to cover three and took that way…”
Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...keye-Breakdown-Through-the-Eyes-of-JT-Barrett
This edition of Buckeye Breakdown: Through The Eyes of J.T. Barrett illustrates the decisions made by the coaching staff, and Barrett, that opened up the passing lanes against a Cover 3 or Cover 4 look. Says Barrett, “They were playing aggressive with the safeties once again. That’s when we get shot plays, when they’re aggressive with the safeties. We came out at halftime and we scored on the first play. Then they went to cover three and took that way…”
Entire article: http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Foot...keye-Breakdown-Through-the-Eyes-of-JT-Barrett
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OHIO STATE QUARTERBACK J.T. BARRETT NAMED SEMIFINALIST FOR DAVEY O'BRIEN AWARD
Other O'Brien Award semifinalists include Jake Browning (Washington), Sam Darnold (USC), Jerod Evans (Virginia Tech), Luke Falk (Washington State), Jalen Hurts (Alabama), Chad Kelly (Ole Miss), Lamar Jackson (Louisville), Trevor Knight (Texas A&M), Patrick Mahomes II (Texas Tech), Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma), Mason Rudolph (Oklahoma State), Wilton Speight (Michigan), Zach Terrell (Western Michigan), Mitch Trubisky (North Carolina), Greg Ward Jr. (Houston), Deshaun Watson (Clemson) and Davis Webb (California).
Watson was last year's Davey O'Brien Award winner.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ett-named-semifinalist-for-davey-obrien-award
Other O'Brien Award semifinalists include Jake Browning (Washington), Sam Darnold (USC), Jerod Evans (Virginia Tech), Luke Falk (Washington State), Jalen Hurts (Alabama), Chad Kelly (Ole Miss), Lamar Jackson (Louisville), Trevor Knight (Texas A&M), Patrick Mahomes II (Texas Tech), Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma), Mason Rudolph (Oklahoma State), Wilton Speight (Michigan), Zach Terrell (Western Michigan), Mitch Trubisky (North Carolina), Greg Ward Jr. (Houston), Deshaun Watson (Clemson) and Davis Webb (California).
Watson was last year's Davey O'Brien Award winner.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...ett-named-semifinalist-for-davey-obrien-award
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That is great but there is no way he beats Jackson at this point. Stay focused on winning out, everything else will follow.
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