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QB Justin Fields (Official Thread)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by MD Buckeye, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. NFBuck

    NFBuck Total Coverage.

    I don't know about that. The hype around Terrelle Pryor was like nothing I'd ever seen. And it was even more in the spotlight because of the circus around his recruitment.

    This transfer was handled skillfully and efficiently. The TP recruitment was a movie of the week.

    As for skill-level, could you imagine Pryor in an Urban Meyer/Tom Herman or Urban Meyer/Ryan Day offense? He was really good with Jim Bollman and Nick frickin' Sisciliano coaching him.
     
  2. GovTressel

    GovTressel Junior

    Pryor in recent offenses....he was a horribly inaccurate thrower, wasn’t able to execute single-reads, was turnover prone, and despite his elite physical abilities, an overrated runner. He was a pure highlight film player-in both the good and bad sense.

    Pryor IS the worst case possibility for Feilds...though Pryor wasn’t the brightest guy in the world and Fields is supposed to be a pretty sharp kid. Hopefully he’s not a complete jackass like Pryor was.
     
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  3. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    I might be misremembering somewhat, but I recall about 90% of third and long first downs being from Pryor breaking contain by stiff arming the DE and running for it. :lol:
     
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  4. MD Buckeye

    MD Buckeye BP Soft Verbal Staff Member BP Recruiting Team Bookie Former BPCFFB II Champ Former FF League III Champ

    No doubt Pryor struggled throwing the ball.... but if you put him in an Urban Meyer/QB run led offense...... look. out.
     
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  5. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    In terms of buzz? He isn't close. Pryor was a generational talent in terms of hype. He was also following 3/4* types. Fields is following TP, Brax, JTB, 12G, Dwayne.

    In terms of QB talent? Not close, the other way. Fields has the feet and arm talent, and his upside dwarfs Pryor. Pryor also was not an efficient operator of the offense but could out-athlete anyone on the field (usually all of them), not unlike Braxton.
     
  6. LovelandBuckeye

    LovelandBuckeye If you choose positivity you must first bitch up.

    Are you saying that TTUN does in fact have it better?
     
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  7. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    Do you think Day could have made TP into a QB rather than a freak athlete taking snaps?
     
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  8. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    IMO it was his head and ego vs skillset enhancements that blocked this achievement
     
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  9. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Definitely. I think Day (or Wilson) could have highlighted his strengths rather than using them 1.5x per year (usually after game 11). Would he have been a high level NFL talent? No, but he managed to start in the league at QB with the minimal training he received.

    I think the raw version of Fields will bear some similarities to Pryor, but the levels he can reach after that are what has everyone excited.
     
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  10. Nigel Tufnel

    Nigel Tufnel Choking on vomit

    Fwiw, back in the day, this board thought Tress was a QB whisperer. Remember all the talk of “if he can do xyz with Krenzel then imagine what he can do with... then came Troy. Many thought Tress had a handle on it. But I digress...
     
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  11. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    It was because he made Bellasari look better, not CK.

    and he actually did
     
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  12. billmac91

    billmac91 Senior

    I just want to state this again, because it bears repeating.

    Fields was an Elite 11 MVP....even over Trevor Lawrence. That is 7 on 7 passing, where your legs are 100% taken away from you. So Fields, in a 7 on 7 tournament, with elite athletes across the board, out-performed Trevor Lawrence, and by many of the coaches there assessments, was the best they've ever seen...that includes Andrew Luck, Jameis Winston, DeShaun Watson, Kyler Murray, Tua Tagovailia.

    I thought this quote from Trent Dilfer was pretty telling, as I believe Fields may not have been happy in the role he played last year:

    We saw Fields do nothing but operate in the pocket at the Elite 11 and The Opening 7-on-7 tournament. His legs were not even part of the equation, yet they are a big weapon for him. The 221-pound prospect can clock a laser-timed 4.51 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

    Dilfer had a word of caution about how his future coordinators should use him on Saturdays.

    “As long as they don’t turn him into a runner that passes,” Dilfer said. “He needs to be a passer that can run. The way college football is right now, his potential is limitless.”



    Fields came to Columbus specifically for Ryan Day, IMO. He saw what he did with Haskins, and wants to be that type of QB. The amazing thing is, those couple of rushes Haskins had a game, can now go to the house under the right circumstances. Fields has run a legit, clocked, 4.51 40 and his last weight listing at UGA was nearly 230 lbs.

    The kid is a freak.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2019
  13. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    I'm no expert on recruits from HS film but I see a bigger, stronger, faster Troy Smith that has, by all accounts, Troy Smith level arm talent and accuracy.

    With the QB coaching and offensive system we have now???

    [​IMG]
     
  14. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    My take from the little bit of film on both of them is that both throwing and running at least look easier for Fields than Tate. I love Tate, he’s electric, but it’s not seamless, effortless running like I’ve seen from Fields or passing like we saw with Haskins and could see from Fields.
     
  15. DaBuckeyes

    DaBuckeyes Junior

    There was a lot of extremely high praise for Fields coming out of HS but I would trust my grandma's opinion over Dilfer's. She's dead too.
     
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