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Quincy Carter has another setback.

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by Thump, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

  2. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

  3. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence

    Dude made over $1 million and never played a down and probably never practiced either. Where do I sign up?
     
  4. Misanthrope

    Misanthrope Banned

    And if you'd like to avoid ESPN and not be asked to register by the Chicago Tribune, here's another link: :wink2:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jetsqcarter&prov=st&type=lgns

    Actually, he made $555,000 and started 3 games when Pennington was hurt. Still not a bad deal...
     
  5. BuckStocksHere

    BuckStocksHere Semper Fi!

    Glad the Cowboys cut his no good butt when they did.
     
  6. Misanthrope

    Misanthrope Banned

    He can't help it he's bipolar but the drug violations are of his own doing. He may now have an addiction problem, but if so it's a result of his behavior - he chose to do drugs.

    The Cowboys didn't say much when they released him but it's pretty apparent now. He can't be trusted to be the #1 QB because he's not dependable.

    I hope he can get his shit together...
     
  7. LloydSev

    LloydSev DreamWeaver

    Obviously you've never had a friend or loved one be diagnosed with bipolar disorder... otherwise you'd find his actions very normal since he was never treated for it. Drug Abuse is normal for untreated bipolar patients on the manic end.
     
  8. BuckStocksHere

    BuckStocksHere Semper Fi!

    Nope on the bi-polar.
    Yep on the drug addiction.

    My bro(who I have disowned) is currently serving time in the state prison in Illinois for numerous drug and drug related crimes. He tore apart our family and I care not for his condition or life. I won't even get into what he did - cause he isn't worth the effort it would take to type it out. He is crap. Garbage. Worthless human being. Drugs suck.

    I dont' give a rats a$$ for anyone who does drugs.... weak SOB's. I have very personal reasons for my beliefs and I'll stick to 'em.

    The bi-polar part is Carter's only saving grace. But he still gets no love from me.
     
  9. I have to agree with you..

    BuckStocksHere! Drugs destroy lives, plain and simple. My dad was mixed up in alcohol and drugs for a couple of years, and he about committed suicide but in 99 he turned his life around, started going to church, stopped drinking and drugin', and is a preacher now! He is a much better man for this! I had to love becuase he was me dad but I didn't like him at all but now I love the death out of him! Neither he nor I miss that life! Drugs about killed him. He is different person today and I thank GOD for that! I hope Carter can get his life straight, and start for a NFL team. I think with the right team he could be a good starter!
     
  10. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member Tech Admin Bookie

    People with bi-polar disorder don't "choose" to do drugs. Two-thirds of those with bi-polar disorder (manic depression) have problems with addiction, so it can be said that addiction is sympomatic of the disease.
     
  11. LloydSev

    LloydSev DreamWeaver

    Very good. At least someone else understands what I was trying to say (even if you knew it before I said it.. lol)...

    To put it into perspective, bipolar disorder affects approx. 2-3% of the population. That is less than the % of Geniuses in the world (which stands right about 3%). Bi-Polar disorder is a very serious mental illness and left untreated can result in very self destructive behavior.
     
  12. BuckStocksHere

    BuckStocksHere Semper Fi!

    I disagree.... however you want to slice it ... it is still a choice.

    Anyone who does drugs...choose such. They don't miraculously enter your body. Whether sick or not - this still applies and they get no love from me. How did they get those drugs? Were they hanging out with unscrupulous people? You just don't wake up one day and say ...geez.... look at this bag o' weed on my table.... I'll smoke it. uh uh.

    I understand (well I don't really as I dont' have it) bi-polar is a "disease" or whatever.... and I feel sorry for anybody with a "disease".... but drug abuse is a choice, plain and simple.

    See Alonzo Spellman. I still can see him running around his street like a caged animal on the t.v. news. It was O.J. like in the coverage in Chicago
     
  13. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member Tech Admin Bookie

    You can disagree, but you'd be wrong. Telling a bi-polar patient to stop erratic, impulsive, irrational activity (like drug abuse, spending sprees, hypersexuality, etc.) is like telling a cancer patient to stop growing tumors. Some people (quite a few, actually) refuse to understand that mental illness is a disease, not simply a series of bad choices. When the chemicals in the brain are imbalanced, mental illness results - it is a physiological problem that cannot be overcome by "willpower" or "choice" or "faith in god" or whatever, but rather must be treated medically. Only when the underlying condition (bi-polar disorder) has been successfully treated, can the conditioned activity (drug abuse) then be addressed.

    For anyone who is interested in bi-polar disorder, please read the text "Manic Depressive Illness" by Drs. Goodwin & Jamison, two of the leading experts on mood disorders.
     
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  14. gill6069

    gill6069 Newbie

    bi-polar

    Great post Lordjeffbuck!
     
  15. Buckinghorse

    Buckinghorse Will work for bpCash

    LordJeffBuck,
    I completely agree. This is not a choice for them.

    Although, I do agree there are those that do have the ability to chose and don't chose wisely. Too often people don't take responsibility for their actions. Using whatever excuse they can find to not take responsibility for their actions and continue with the poor choice.

    In the case described above you are absolutely correct.


    "Hypersexuality"....ummmm....maybe I am bi-polar. Or would like to be.......????
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2005

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