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RB Ezekiel Elliott (All B1G, All-American, National Champion, Pro Bowl, All Pro, New England Patriots)

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The NFL has had egg on their face the last 3-4 years for going light domestic violence accusations. They are trying to save face. Fair? Not really. Surprising? Not at all. Has zeke acted like a child since getting to the NFL and make for a good example regardless of whether there was any domestic violence? You bet!

On the note of his innocence, I made up my mind when they found out she picked a fight with some random guy in a bar until he hit her and then told the police it was Zeke. Is the proof that he's innocent? No, but it tells me a lot about her character.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So all anyone has to do to get an NFL star suspended is accuse him of something?

Just that simple is it?
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When does jourdan Lewis get suspended. He actually had charges filed against him. Gareon Conley, another buckeye (so your flawed team bias defense can stop) needs immediate suspension as well.

If neither of those two are suspended, then the NFL is simply being arbitrary in handing out suspensions, which was the entire point most people were making.

Notice I didn't even have to bring up mixon or Winston.
 
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Pretty much. Have a connection and make an accusation. Roger Goodell wanted a system that helps him make it easy to punish players due to allegations, and he has it. For the vast majority of cases, punishment will be fair. But not all cases.

Jaxbuck said:
So all anyone has to do to get an NFL star suspended is accuse him of something?

Just that simple is it?
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tsteele316 said:
When does jourdan Lewis get suspended. He actually had charges filed against him. Gareon Conley, another buckeye (so your flawed team bias defense can stop) needs immediate suspension as well.

If neither of those two are suspended, then the NFL is simply being arbitrary in handing out suspensions, which was the entire point most people were making.

Notice I didn't even have to bring up mixon or Winston.
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and again, as we come to degree 270 of the inevitable 360 journey we will take, crying about the NFL being arbitrary is a complete strawman

They didn't decide to suspend Elliott for no reason, he's done something

Conley actually makes the point that they don't go suspending people arbitrarily doesn't it?
 
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DZ83CK said:
Pretty much. Have a connection and make an accusation. Roger Goodell wanted a system that helps him make it easy to punish players due to allegations, and he has it. For the vast majority of cases, punishment will be fair. But not all cases.
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Sounds like they are as corrupt as those cowards on the Penn State BOT
 
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DZ83CK said:
Roger Goodell clearly does not give you a lot of good reasons to defend him with.
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and here is our fundamental disconnect. I am not defending Roger Goodell.

I am making the logical argument that he isn't crazy/stupid/corrupt enough to just arbitrarily suspend a star player without said star player having done something

You are arguing that because Goodell has been arbitrary in his suspensions previously then obviously this is another case of injustice and therefore Zeke is innocent.

I do not believe Zeke is an innocent victim of arbitrary Roger. I believe Zeke has done enough to get arbitrary Roger's attention and therefore Zeke should lie in the bed he has made for himself however arbitrary it may be.

If anyone is hell bent on defending Zeke, from what I know of him second hand from his time at OSU, the Buckeye cruise for cancer and just news reports of his NFL time so far, then they should probably use the affluenza defense.
 
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I'm not just saying Goodell has been inconsistent and investigates to get certain results he wants. Any reasonable person has to agree Goodell's whole system of punishment is stacked against the accused. A big part of why Zeke lost is what had to be conclusively proven to the NFL wasn't that he was guilty, but that he was innocent. This is very different from most systems of justice in the US that I am aware of.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
and again, as we come to degree 270 of the inevitable 360 journey we will take, crying about the NFL being arbitrary is a complete strawman

They didn't decide to suspend Elliott for no reason, he's done something

Conley actually makes the point that they don't go suspending people arbitrarily doesn't it?
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If there's something to be learned from all of this it's that Conley better keep his nose clean next year, regardless...
 
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Jaxbuck said:
and again, as we come to degree 270 of the inevitable 360 journey we will take, crying about the NFL being arbitrary is a complete strawman

They didn't decide to suspend Elliott for no reason, he's done something

Conley actually makes the point that they don't go suspending people arbitrarily doesn't it?
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Actually, Conley and Lewis and the article linked earlier showing the vast inconsistency of the suspensions handed down by goodell in DV cases, shows it to be the very definition of arbitrary.
 
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tsteele316 said:
Actually, Conley and Lewis and the article linked earlier showing the vast inconsistency of the suspensions handed down by goodell in DV cases, shows it to be the very definition of arbitrary.
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I never said suspensions weren't inconsistent

I said I don't believe completely innocent people get suspended for no reason....big difference but I've said all this before. We have come back to where we started.

At this point I am done with it.
 
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