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Reputation Points Question

Thump said:
I had a poster e-mail me today about my low reputation points. He said there was a comment about me being Michigan sympathizer.

I'm here to say that is absolute HOGSHIT!!!

Michigan can go to hell and then I'd take a dump on them for good measure.

Where can I find these comments and why the hell would someone write that?


Heh heh. Me and Mr. Moore both dinged you.
 
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ok, someone is taking this too far already, abuse i say abuse.. i was just hit twice for old threads, in one of them the only thing i said was "
mayday is actually a major holiday here and everyone gets a day off
cmon now, really who did that offend? the other was the article i posted about nancy regan supporting stem cell research, and i dont think i even typed any thing there, just cut and pasted... so yea.. who ever is the being childish can knock it off, i dont go around giving negative feedback cuz i dont like your opinions..
 
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Don't feel bad BuckeyeSoldier, someone gave me negative points for posting the story about our hiring of TE coach/Recruiting Coordinator John Peterson and posting the results from the Spring Game draft.


:lol:
 
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I wish we could see who gave good or bad marks... it's tough to get good marks and a couple bad marks could get you negative quickly...

I forgot about the point system, the guy from wisconson that was flameing would have been a good person to start giving negative points to...

Looks like Tibs might have a new area to focus on... he will prob. be the leader of the pack in negative points with all the folks that bitch about him...
 
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I'm not sure I see the point in "reputation points." It seems like it just people against each other and pisses people off. I would think an ignore list would be enough. Can someone enlighten me as to why such a feature exists?
 
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sushichic

Don't you know, guys keep score on EVERYTHING! :biggrin:

Our competitive nature requires us to keep score, even on a football discussion board. It is funny and based on how easy it is to anonymously ding someone I can't imagine too many people caring about the their true score.

That being said, Where is the love?
 
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These ratings are a neat feature, but they really should show who the comments are from. I didn't know that the feature existed prior to this, so I went to check my ratings. I had 1 negative comment about how one of my posts was a retread of "conservative propaganda." I find it to be very cowardly for someone to ding a post, especially based on a difference of opinions and then to not have the balls to end the negative comment with their user ID or abbreviation.

It's also kinda comical that someone will be critical anonymously and not be willing to discuss/debate the topic within a thread. My personal opinion is that if someone has the nerve to provide a negative (or even positive) comment, then they should also have the balls (figuratively speaking for members such as SushiChic) to include their ID. I think we're all big boys and can take criticism, as long as it's provided fairly.

For the record, I will try not to ding anyone for simply having a difference of opinion, but someone like Tibor (just for the sake of example :wink2: ) might expect to get a few dings that simply say something like "dumbass" or "get real." I will try to remember to include my name with any such post.
 
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I have explained the "rep" points several times. I have done so because I think some folks don't understand how they work (or even what the feature is). I got dinged on a joke I posted in the Romer Room (No comment, no name). It was probably the lest offensive post on the whole board. I just chalked it up to someone pressing the "rep" button, not realizing what they were doing, and inadvertently giving out some negative points. It happens. That's why I keep letting people know what the "rep" points are about.

As I stated earlier, I would hope people use the points with reasonabe intentions. A difference of opinion doesn't justify any action in my eyes. Flamming, trolling, etc. would rate negative points from me though. In fact I have given no one negative points. I have only given points (when I've remembered to do so) to what I considered outstanding posts OR for what I consider an outstanding contribution (Bucknutty's & Buckskin's work in recruiting the forum). However, different people will use the feature differently. I would hope the feature isn't used to "bash" folks who don't agree with your opinion, but I have no control over how others will use the feature. I would hope that instead of the focus being directed to negative points, we would use it more for positive points for posts and work that you appeciate.

We'll just see how it goes.

EDIT: And yes, I have included my name/moniker each time I have used the "rep" feature. Seems only fair to me.
 
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The length of this post got out of hand, I'm going through and embolding key points for folks who like things short and sweet.


I'll look into whether or not there's a modification to the system to show who the comments are from. I would be surprised if someone in the vBulletin community hadn't made such a hack yet.

The reputation system is a standard feature for this software. I believe it's also standard that users can opt to not display their reputation in their UserCP settings. Reputation goes a bit deeper than some dots on user postbits. With another reputation, a registered user can become a mod. A mod with enough reputation at some point becomes a senior mod. It's a built-in system of advancement designed to help keep the board in check and promote participation.

I think it would take a lot for someone to really get a lot of negative rep here. Abusing the system is almost impossible. Using Tibor as an example, sure, there are a number of people who probably give him negative rep every other post. But the system is smart about it. If it sees the same people dinging him over and over, their input towards his rep becomes less of an impact every single time. After a few times, someone making a mission to blast you will have zero ability to swing your reputation one way or another, and even across the board the efficacy of their reptuation votes diminish at the same time. It's designed to learn who abusers are and take their voice away within the system. The points you give or take when you apply reputation are not a fixed amount. How long you've been here, how many times you've posted, and what your own reputation is all factor in to how many points you can give and take. Even how you handle rep is taken into consideration. If you're always positive or negative, the power of your 'vote' weakens. If there's some balance to it, the power increases. But getting back to my Tibor example, while there are people who will ding him, there are also people who will give him positive reputation as well. If there are people who disagree with you, there will be some that agree, no matter your point.

The only downside I see to making rep author comments public, is that it could chill the system somewhat. People might not be as willing to really tell you what they're thinking about you if they know they're going to get blasted for it.

Rep that has affected you negatively will show up in UserCP with a red dot, positively with a green, and then some with show up grey. That just means that the person giving or taking rep didn't have enough juice to sway your value one way or another.

Bottom line is that if you have some sort of personal issue with the system, ignore it.

I'm also all for people opting to include their usernames in rep comments. I often at least leave something suggestive of who I am. The system being there doesn't change people's perspectives. If anything, it gives you a chance to hear (for better or worse) what someone's take on you might be. We're all going to get sophomoric dings for various comments we make, but over time, those get washed out by a broader message.

So here I sit at the end of this reply, wondering if making the names of rep givers and takers public would be a good thing at all. If someone wants to pat you on the back or backhand you, they can do it in the thread.

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Okay, here's where we are. The option to disable reputation was not enabled by default. It now has been set that way. Which for some reason means that some people are enabled, and others are disabled.

The option to change it either way can be found in your UserCP (link above this point on the red navbar, far left). Once in there, look to the navigation on the left side of the screen, and find User Options. Within the first area or two, you will see a box that you can check or uncheck to toggle the reputation system on or off.


I was reading through reputation comments I have received recently, some were positive, some were negative, some didn't adjust my rating at all. A few people left indications of who they were, others didn't. Overall I see value in such a system. It allows someone to agree without having to trumpet as much in a thread, or disagree without getting into a huge debate about it. I think 90% of the time, if someone disagrees with you, you're going to hear about it in the thread itself. The other 10%, if they don't feel like they can or want to argue the issue and just ding you instead, then so be it.

NO ONE sees your reputation comments but you. Even as admin I can not go into your account and see what people have said. So this isn't a system that just allows people another route to slam others. Ignore the stupid comments, and just focus on the constructive (if you use the system), that's all I can really advise.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye said:
Now I see some of you have a black gem that says 'disabled rep'. What's up with that?

It's me enabling an option in UserCP to opt-out of the feature. For some reason, doing that opted some accounts out automatically. But the instructions for people to set it as they desire are included below.


Clarity said:
Okay, here's where we are. The option to disable reputation was not enabled by default. It now has been set that way. Which for some reason means that some people are enabled, and others are disabled.

The option to change it either way can be found in your UserCP (link above this point on the red navbar, far left). Once in there, look to the navigation on the left side of the screen, and find User Options. Within the first area or two, you will see a box that you can check or uncheck to toggle the reputation system on or off.
 
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