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Roehlisberger and the Buckeyes

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Oh8ch, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I have red numerous comments on what did or did not transpire duirng the recuritment of Ben Roethlisberger. The print BSB this week has a detailed account based on a review of their BSB publications at the time.

    Since Ben (I don't really know him that well - I'm just not going to keep typing his last name) did not play QB until he was a Senior it is understandable why an offer would not come unitl late in the process - but OSU did offer and he considered it.

    However, (and here is the reason for this post) Ben canceled his Jan 7 visit. Why? The Jan 15, 2000 BSB quoted Ben directly as saying it was due to Internet rumors that he would be moved around by OSU.

    Just imagine what this cost us! Ben freakin' Roethlisberger! Man, he would have been one hell of a tight end.


    I think I might keep this one in my hip pocket for the next time somebody says recruits aren't influenced by what they read on these boards. (Speaking of which - is there ANY way we can have the football board on BN shut down as a public nuisance?)
     
  2. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    I'm glad we didn't get him - he can't win 'the big one' :p :wink:
     
  3. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    Krenzel won us a championship. I'm not complainin'.
     
  4. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I was just about to say that.
     
  5. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    And if a QB like Krenzel could win us one, imagine how many a QB like Big Ben would have won....
     
  6. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    My guess is either zero or one.
     
  7. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    Its an interesting daydream. Its also more than idle speculation as Big Ben could have towered behind the line at tOSU, but chose not to risk being cast as Best Athlete Suited to Re-Assignment. I'm OK with that.

    The beauty of Krenzel as QB is that there is no doubt in my mind that he could lead the Buckeyes to a NC victory. None.

    However, turn this whole thing around though.
    Put Big Ben behind the Bears line.
    Put Krenzel behind the Steelers line.

    Mmm -- Methinks the Genetics Major would have had a more respectable entree to the NFL in Da Burg than in the City with Broad Shoulders.
     
  8. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    Interesting.

    Maybe I should have rephrased my original statement to read:

    Despite having Krenzel as our QB, we won a NC. Imagine how many a QB like Big Ben would have won....
     
  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Probably none. Krenzel won on leadership skills and making the right decisions, despite having a highly inconsistent OL. Roethliesburger excelled at Miami by playing behind an outstanding OL against comparatively inferior opponents.
     
  10. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    The biggest answer possible is 2.... We weren't in a place in '01 to roll over people... and that gives you '02 and '03 to work with... maybe he doesn't pull it off agianst cincy... but does against Wisky and Meatchicken.... who knows...
     
  11. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    Roethlisberger was the heart & soul of the Redhawks. If you watched any of their games you saw how his teammates looked to him whenever they needed a big play. He was a tremendous leader in his own right.

    Inferior competition only when compared to Ohio State's opponents but not when you put them beside Miami. There is no way they were head & shoulders talent-wise over everyone else in the MAC. Better coached maybe.
     
  12. OSU5NC

    OSU5NC Newbie

    Don't mess with team chemistry. OSU won a national title, why complain?
     
  13. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    I'm not complaining.


    I just think it's a little overboard to say "Krenzel won us a championship."
     
  14. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    You are 100% right. Krenzel was a 4th year junior during the NC year, Roethlisberger was a RS soph. While the ages aren't a big deal, the attitude was. Roethlisberger was playing against MAC level DBs, w/ a great O-line. To assume that he would have had Krenzel's mental poise is a big IF that I am not willing to make. I'll take a NC and 2 BCS bolws in Krenzel's 2 years as a starter against whatever Roethlisberger might have theoretically provided. A NC in hand is worth 2 or 3(at least) in the bush.......
    BTW-I wonder what board he is referring to. The oldtimers around here can vouch that fucknuts was sane back then-we were all on it!!!!!!

    Miami, Marshall, BG, and maybe No. Ill are/were way above the rest of the MAC in talent during Big Ben's tenure-much more than say NW,PSU, or Ill vs. OSU. scUM or OSU vs. Indiana might be a good comparison for Miami vs. the lower half of the MAC.
     
  15. ZachDumas

    ZachDumas Banned

    Ben = Not Right Fit for tOSU

    Ben is not a QB that would fit into our offensive scheme very well. He would probably look downfield to a big play too often. And probably look to pass the ball a lot more as well.

    I think he made the right choice for himself and for us by going to Miami (OH) where he could be flexible within the offense and grow as a passing QB.

    We need guys that can play within Tressel's philosophy. If they cannot, they will not play anyway, since he makes the final decision, and it would result in the waste of a scholarship position.

    -Z. "The Hitman" D.
     

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