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Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by cincibuck, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    I'm wondering if it isn't time to think about moving the Michigan game.

    My thinking is simple, I can recall more than one instance when a late loss to Michigan cost us dearly in the polls and in terms of which bowl we went to. In 1996 -7 it even cost us a National Championship. If we had lost the Michigan game earlier in the season we would have had time to pull our selves back up in the polls to the point where playing ASU could have been the NC game. Miami had lost a game earlier in the season to a lesser opponent (North Carolina!) and yet was able to re-surface to the number two slot in the polls. Michigan seems to have fared better in this situation... if you can ignore getting shut out of the Rose Bowl following a 10 - 10 tie with OSU in Ann Arbor, but they've gotten the short end of the stick due to a late loss to us also.

    Much as I love the tradition of the last game, I think there are lots of reasons to let it float through the schedule.

    "But what about all the other rival games that weekend? (I hear you ask)"

    Might be welcome news to some other schools who'd like to get on the national network with their big rivalry games. Purdue - Indiana has to settle for private outlets and 30 seconds of highlights at half-time of The Game. Same - same Illinois - Northwestern, Minnie and Wisky...

    might also be a time to ask why we get stuck with Penn State EVERY year, while they float off of Michigan's schedule. That means we are always playing two of the three best programs (say what you will about the last few years, but with all that tradition and the second biggest stadium in the conference PSU is going to be tough) in the conference every year.. Whadaya think?
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2005
  2. martinss01

    martinss01 blissfully stupid

    you move the game you lower the importance of the game. you lower the importance of the game and you end the rivalry.

    you can't have your cake and eat it to. "the game" isn't "the game" because you can recover from its effects easily. it is "the game" because it IS your season. if you want "the game" to be just another game then knock yourself out. but it cant' be both... scum is either just another team in the big 10 that we happen to play every year or they are 50% of the greatest rivalry in sports. your call.
     
  3. DCBuckFan

    DCBuckFan Fark You

    I agree, as will 95% of the people hear I think.. your arguement makes sense, but no way can you move THE game.
     
  4. coastalbuck

    coastalbuck And this one belongs to the Reds! Staff Member

    If I'm not mistaken, big ten teams can name some schools rivalry games and they will meet every year. As to the question of moving the scUM game, hell no! It needs to stay where it is. Tradition is something best not messed with.
     
  5. BearBuck27

    BearBuck27 Game Day!!!

    You NEVER move this game. That's what makes this rivalry so great. If you move it from the last game, it lessens the importance of THE GAME. To get to the National Championship, you have to beat the other team. My answer is no. I don't think this game will ever be moved from the last week.
     
  6. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Given the right circumstances, if tOSU-scUM played in game four, they could possibly play again in a bowl game. That's what happened with FSU-Miami and we were all sick of them playing each other.
     
  7. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    the guys post starts out like this and he still has green? you guys are gettin soft :lol:
     
  8. HineyBuck

    HineyBuck Old newb

    Sorry Cinci, I know you probably mean well. But I couldn't read past the first sentence of your post:

    Quote:
    "I'm wondering if it isn't time to think about moving the Michigan game."

    Dumb idea.
     
  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    One the stupiest things I've ever heard on a chat board. You don't move The Game just because you want to minimize the effect of a loss. You know the best way to do that? Don't fricking lose. Besides, if we can't beat Michigan, I personally don't think we don't deserve to be national champs. As for getting "stuck" with Penn State as our second rivalry team, I love it. I want to play the two other most-storied programs in the conference every year...it only maintains our prestige.
     
  10. itcdbuck

    itcdbuck Newbie

    I AGREE !!! I brought this up on another board and I almost got killed !!!

    something I hear
    "moving the game will end the rivalry and make it less meaningful"

    yeah right ..

    since FSU/Umiami isn't big ... OK/Texas, nah , nobody cares about that one anymore .
     
  11. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    thats as far as i got.
     
  12. martinss01

    martinss01 blissfully stupid

    big in their respective states? sure... big nation wide? not hardly. scum and scum jr are big deals up north as well. think anybody else cares? "the game" is argueably the greatest rivalry in sports period and any sports outlet worth a damn will tell you that. fsu/miami can't say that. can't even dream about that.
     
  13. BrutusBobcat

    BrutusBobcat Icon and Entertainer

    Karen Holbrook, is that you???
     
  14. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    As well you should've been. Before you start using other rivalries as support for your arguent to move The Game, you should know about their histories, along with ours:

    OU/UT has been played in the second week of October since 1933 and has been played at "neutral" Dallas since 1929. You don't hear anyone yelling for change there.

    FSU/UM is different because they were either both independent or in different conferences up until last year, and thus had to rely upon available openings in both schedules. Thus, you really can't use their "rivalry" as support. Besides, they have no where near the tradition as Ohio State-Michigan or Oklahoma-Texas.

    We've been playing Michigan as the last game of the regular season since 1935, except for 1942 when we played Iowa Pre Flight after we played Michigan. You don't mess with tradition just to make you feel better.
     
  15. hawaiianbuckeye

    hawaiianbuckeye Where's YOUR Gold Pants?

    Stop smokin' the crack pipe!

    Hayn
     

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