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Scoring the BCS Bowl Results For All 16 Years

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Zurp

Zurp

I have misplaced my pants.
I know that there was a thread called "Some BCS Facts for your SEC Friends", and I posted this in there. But I must fail at search function, because it gave me no results. Also, after posting this for a few years, I thought I split this into its own thread. Failsearch.

Anyway, if someone decides this should be merged, please merge. Otherwise, here's this thread.

Basically, I came up with a system a few years ago that I wanted to show Ohio State's dominance in the BCS era. I gave each team 1 point for making it to, but losing, a BCS bowl game, and 3 points for making it to, and winning, a BCS bowl game. For the national championship game, points are doubled (6 points for winning, 2 for losing).

Points are added up throughout the history of BCS, and you can interpret them as you wish. Totals through 15 years of BCS bowl games are as follows:
26 Ohio State
23 Florida
23 USC
20 LSU
20 Oklahoma
20 Alabama
16 Florida State
14 Miami
14 Texas
12 Oregon
Everyone else has below 10 points.

Note that I did not remove Ohio State's Sugar Bowl win (3 points), or any of USC's wins or losses. Some might say that I'm only keeping those points on the board so Ohio State would maintain their lead. But since I didn't take away USC's prior to any issues at Ohio State, I think it's just showing that I'm being consistent. Not to start this argument here, but those games happened. Feel free to post your own rankings and scoring system and take away whatever games you want to.

I will update this with this year's bowl results, but it's clear to say that Ohio State WILL win the 16-year "game". Coming into this season, the only teams that could pass Ohio State were Florida and USC with a win in a national championship. LSU, Oklahoma, and Alabama could tie Ohio State if they won the national championship. Alabama is the only team there with a BCS bowl game. And even if they were to magically win the BCS championship this year, Ohio State will get to 27 or 29. Alabama would have 26.
 
ORD_Buckeye said:
And what jumps out at me is that the Big Ten is the only conference with just one school in the list.
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There was a list recently that used a system counting wins, and as I recall, the BIG was sadly just above the MAC.

Sure would like to see that change. If I had a few million $$ to spread around among 5-star recruit's fathers, maybe I could help out.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
And what jumps out at me is that the Big Ten is the only conference with just one school in the list.
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FWIW, M*ch*gan and Wisconsin would be in the next few teams with 7 points apiece. And Miami racked up their points coming out of the Big East, so FSU is pretty much alone in the ACC.

Also, the B1G will end the BCS era with the most overall appearances, and MSU will be the conference's 8th BCS program (not counting Nebraska's B12 appearances). The Big 12 has had nine different BCS programs, but three of them are in difference conferences now.
 
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BayBuck said:
FWIW, M*ch*gan and Wisconsin would be in the next few teams with 7 points apiece. And Miami racked up their points coming out of the Big East, so FSU is pretty much alone in the ACC.

Also, the B1G will end the BCS era with the most overall appearances, and MSU will be the conference's 8th BCS program (not counting Nebraska's B12 appearances). The Big 12 has had nine different BCS programs, but three of them are in difference conferences now.
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Big Ten is currently at 26 appearances, all time. This year will make it 28 appearances. The SEC will have 27 appearances.
However, the Big Ten is currently 12-14. The SEC is 17-8.
Also, if you add up the total number of points, you get 55 for the Big Ten, and 87 for the SEC. Divide those points by the number of appearances, and you get 2.12 for the Big Ten, and 3.48 for the SEC. Pac 12 (2.55), Big 12 (2.45), and Big East (2.40) have clearly better scores than the Big Ten does. Non-AQ teams (lumping them all together into one category) also did better than the Big Ten (2.25). Only the ACC (1.69) and Notre Dame (1.25) did worse.
 
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However one slices up the data, I think it's I escapable that we need the rest of the conference (or at least the top half) to get their shit together. One program can't carry the conference, and that's just compounded by the espin vendetta.

Silver lining to our loss is that the Big Ten has a shot of two teams finishing in the top 5 in I don't know how long.
 
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Zurp said:
Big Ten is currently at 26 appearances, all time. This year will make it 28 appearances. The SEC will have 27 appearances.
However, the Big Ten is currently 12-14. The SEC is 17-8.
Also, if you add up the total number of points, you get 55 for the Big Ten, and 87 for the SEC. Divide those points by the number of appearances, and you get 2.12 for the Big Ten, and 3.48 for the SEC. Pac 12 (2.55), Big 12 (2.45), and Big East (2.40) have clearly better scores than the Big Ten does. Non-AQ teams (lumping them all together into one category) also did better than the Big Ten (2.25). Only the ACC (1.69) and Notre Dame (1.25) did worse.
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While the "Zurp improvised scoring method" provides this sort of interesting fodder to chew on, ultimately wins are what count (although the BCS payouts are nice too), and the B1G trails only the PAC and SEC in total BCS wins (and can pass the PAC with two more wins this season).
 
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What troubles me most is that I don't see big ten teams trying other than Ohio State. Too much of just hiring last year's winner of the MAC.

I see sec teams ttrying, other than perhaps necktucky and Vandy. Even Arky tried when they threw all that cash at Bert. They failed....but they tried.

I'm not ssaying the big ten needs to crawl into the gutter with the sec teams or center their universities' total existence around their foosball programs. But step up the game. You have the god damned money. Spend it. If a sh#thole like arky or the Mississippi schools can, surely Illinois, Purdue, Iowa and certainly the corn can
 
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What I get out of this is that we put 2 teams in more than anyone else, and it's not based on performance - but on the fact that we travel and have good ratings.
It's also worth noting the 2 conferences that do best play the overwhelming majority of their BCS games at home.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
What troubles me most is that I don't see big ten teams trying other than Ohio State. Too much of just hiring last year's winner of the MAC.

I see sec teams ttrying, other than perhaps necktucky and Vandy. Even Arky tried when they threw all that cash at Bert. They failed....but they tried.

I'm not ssaying the big ten needs to crawl into the gutter with the sec teams or center their universities' total existence around their foosball programs. But step up the game. You have the god damned money. Spend it. If a sh#thole like arky or the Mississippi schools can, surely Illinois, Purdue, Iowa and certainly the corn can
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Right now, Ohio State is elite. Michigan State and Wisconsin are performing at their peak, but probably don't have the "brand" to ever be elite. The main problem with the B1G is that high-profile programs like Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska are performing far beneath their potential. If Ohio State, Michigan State, and Wisconsin can maintain their present levels, and Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska can get their acts together, then the B1G would have six perennial top-20 programs. At that point, it wouldn't really matter what the bottom feeders of the B1G did.

And one more thing - Illinois is a traditionally crappy team (since 1980, 3 conference titles and a .459 winning percentage, 81st amongst the FBS teams), but given their location (close to both Chicago and St. Louis) they are a sleeping giant. If Illinois could hire the right coach, they could easily become another Virginia Tech.
 
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