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scUM fans called out for being dumbasses.

tom brady could win 50 superbowls and he still wont be one of the best quarterbacks ever until he starts playing like a good quarterback. jesus christ. the starting center has just as much if not more of an effect on the team and you dont hear people saying all he does is win.

fucking shitty ass faggot. you know he's gay.
 
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COME ON 27, And how would you no for sure he is gay? And how would you know he has a shitty ass? JK,JK had to......

Brady is on the heels of tying Montana's SB MVP record which I want un-touched. As a ND fan well Montana will always be the best but give the guy credit as he does not make mistakes in big games, but always makes the big play! You can bet Dan Marino wishes he could say that!
 
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what big play has he made in a big game? the game winning field goals? oh wait...that was their kicker. fumbling against the raiders....oh that didnt happen, nevermind. driving all the way down the field to set up the GW field goal against the panthers? the drive started at the 40.

he is an average-good QB on a great team with a great coach. so all of a sudden he's the best QB of all time? bullshit.
 
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he is an average-good QB on a great team with a great coach. so all of a sudden he's the best QB of all time? bullshit.
I am not a Tom Brady fan at all, but you have to give the guy credit for this run he is on. I would say he is an above average QB on a great team that plays together for 60 minutes. Alot of teams in the NFL do not do that. I don't think everyone is ready to label him the best QB of all time, but even though he is a SCUM alum, I still respect his ability to play error free in the big games, take a look at his numbers:

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</TD><TD>Tom Brady #12 | Quarterback | New England Patriots
Height: 6-4 Weight: 225 Born: Aug 3, 1977 - San Mateo, CA College: Michigan
Draft: 2000 - 6th round (33rd pick) by the New England Patriots
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class=yspscores align=left>New England</TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>86.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>264</TD><TD class=yspscores>413</TD><TD class=yspscores>63.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>2843</TD><TD class=yspscores>189.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>18</TD><TD class=yspscores>12</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>36</TD><TD class=yspscores>43</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>41</TD><TD class=yspscores>216</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>12</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2002</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>New England</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>85.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>373</TD><TD class=yspscores>601</TD><TD class=yspscores>62.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>3764</TD><TD class=yspscores>235.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.3</TD><TD 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stat wise he is not a prolific passer, but the bottom line he gets it done...remind you of anyone we used to have at OSU?
 
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I would say he is an above average QB on a great team that plays together for 60 minutes.
in other words he falls in that average-good range that i put him in?

stat wise he is not a prolific passer, but the bottom line he gets it done...remind you of anyone we used to have at OSU?
yes ive called him krenzel many times. and guess what. i dont remember krenzel being mentioned as a great QB.

thanks for making my point.
 
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coxew said:
The difference is that Brady wins and still puts up good numbers. Krenzel won but his stats were well below average.
oh so now we arent comparing him to krenzel anymore?

I still don't know what your point was unless it was this..
my point was the same exact thing that you said. he falls between average and good (above average) and he wins because of his team. its not that hard.

tibor75 said:
The difference is that Krenzel plays for a team he likes, and Brady plays for a team that broke his heart.

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the difference is krenzel was never called the greatest college QB and was never up for the heisman. thats the equivalent to what brady is being considered.

or didnt anybody read where i've called brady krenzel many times?
 
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bucknuts44820 said:
I didn't mean to imply he wins because of the team around him. He is a big reason why they win.
as you clearly showed with his awesome stats :roll1:

of course he is a part of them winning. he doesnt cause many turnovers and he gets the job done. but does that make him one of the greatest QBs of all time?
 
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In the end, all a quaterback is judged on is his ability to win games. In this context Brady is one of the best as far as championships. I compare him to Bradshaw and damn Bradshaw made the Hall of Fame for gods sake.

Let the playoff loss to the Pats go...bury it. Its eating you up inside 27.
 
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