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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL)

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ScriptOhio said:
Nick Saban, Kirby Smart both call for increased NIL regulation in college football: 'You're going to have the haves and have nots'

Alabama football coach Nick Saban and Georgia coach Kirby Smart both called for increased regulation on name, image and likeness (NIL) deals for college athletes during their joint College Football Playoff news conferences Sunday.

Without more regulation, Saban and Smart said the same teams are going to continue to dominate college football.

Right at the top of that list are Alabama and Georgia, who meet Monday for the national title for the second time in the past five years. Alabama is vying for its sixth national title in the past 11 years.

"You're going to have the haves and have nots, and the separation that is already there is going to grow larger," Smart said. "The schools that have the capacity and the ability and are more competitive in the NIL market are going to be schools that step ahead on top of other schools. So I don't want [recruiting] decisions to be based on that, but ultimately a lot of young men want to make their decision based on that."

Alabama was ranked No. 2 and Georgia No. 3 in ESPN's 2022 signing class rankings. Texas A&M, another SEC school, was ranked No. 1. SEC schools have won 11 of the past 15 national championships.

Saban said the NIL rules were a "positive thing for players" and that their ability to earn money wasn't a "bad thing." But he is concerned about how the NIL rules are being used to lure players to schools.

"I don't think that was the intention," Saban said. "I don't think that would be the NCAA's intention. I think we probably need some kind of national legislation to sort of control that to some degree, because I think there will be an imbalance relative to who can dominate college football if that's not regulated in some form or fashion."

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-regulation-college-football-going-haves-nots
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WTF is he talking about, there is already a haves and have nots in CFB :lol:
CFB has hardly EVER had parity! 12 teams have won NCs in the last 20yrs(out of over 60 P5 teams)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS
Just looking at this list, not only do the same teams win NCs, but the same teams play in them as well.

I do think that NIL should be regulated some how, but its obvious that the NCAA can't handle it, and thinking that conferences will police themselves is asinine. Maybe before agreeing to NIL, some rules should've been set ahead of time :roll2:
But for now it's the wild west, and I'm glad to be rooting for a team that has the firepower to keep up with the big bad Bama and the rest of the deep pockets in the SEC.


ScriptOhio said:


And Bronny's family is so poor, he could really use the money to help out, etc.
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Surprised that Master P's son isn't on that list.
https://www.si.com/college/2021/07/02/hercy-miller-master-p-son-signs-2m-deal-nil-law-change
 
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pnuts34 said:
WTF is he talking about, there is already a haves and have nots in CFB :lol:
CFB has hardly EVER had parity! 12 teams have won NCs in the last 20yrs(out of over 60 P5 teams)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS
Just looking at this list, not only do the same teams win NCs, but the same teams play in them as well.

I do think that NIL should be regulated some how, but its obvious that the NCAA can't handle it, and thinking that conferences will police themselves is asinine. Maybe before agreeing to NIL, some rules should've been set ahead of time :roll2:
But for now it's the wild west, and I'm glad to be rooting for a team that has the firepower to keep up with the big bad Bama and the rest of the deep pockets in the SEC.




Surprised that Master P's son isn't on that list.
https://www.si.com/college/2021/07/02/hercy-miller-master-p-son-signs-2m-deal-nil-law-change
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Is it really NIL if it's Lebron's allowance for his kid?
 
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dragurd said:
Arch surely though I don't think Cooper is as wealthy as the other 2 Manning's? Miller I haven't followed. Cold guess is would be Reggie Miller's kid but Miller is far to common of a name to be sure.
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Lol! I take it that you’re not a hip hop fan.
Hercy Miller is rapper Master P’s son. Who’s worth an estimated $200mil
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-rappers/master-p-net-worth/

Cooper is worth $13mil, so he’s not doing bad in his own right
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/business-executives/cooper-manning-net-worth/
 
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pnuts34 said:
Lol! I take it that you’re not a hip hop fan.
Hercy Miller is rapper Master P’s son. Who’s worth an estimated $200mil
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-rappers/master-p-net-worth/

Cooper is worth $13mil, so he’s not doing bad in his own right
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/business-executives/cooper-manning-net-worth/
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Lol yeah I had no clue. I listen to mostly rock. And damn he does all right not his brothers for sure but not the poor brother either.
 
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dragurd said:
Lol yeah I had no clue. I listen to mostly rock. And damn he does all right not his brothers for sure but not the poor brother either.
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Yeah, I remember hearing on the radio that Cooper made a nice chunk of change in the energy sector. And wasn’t just mooching off his brothers and dad.

It is ironic that the sons of such wealthy people have some of the biggest NIL deals. Which I’m sure has something to do with their fathers connections. The only reason I’m sure Shaqs son isn’t on this list, is because he’s making him do his own work and not his name.
 
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Trevi said:
So if they’re employees, would their scholarships be classified as “income” as an employee benefit and subject to income tax?
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Depending on how it’s done it could be. We may never know because if one state goes and does this before others that state’s institutions will have an actual disincentive in place for any caliber of D1 football player to go to school there.

Devil is in the details and I understand what they are trying to do but I’m not sure it’s going to work.
 
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