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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL)

Student-athletes look to Pell grants to subsidize education

When he arrived at Ohio State to play football in 2002 on a full-ride scholarship, Roy Hall had never heard of a Pell Grant. He didn’t know where the extra money his teammates received every quarter came from until someone told him halfway through his freshman year.

Hall, a South Euclid, Ohio, native raised by a single mother, saw his athletic abilities and full-ride scholarship as his way to get an education debt-free. With his father not in the picture and his mother working multiple jobs just to keep their home, Hall said being a student-athlete had plenty of benefits. However, being a full-time athlete on top of a full-time student was a tradeoff.

“Student-athletes don’t have freedom,” Hall said. “We are told what to do, when to do it, how to do it, when to go, when to leave, when to wake up, when to get dressed. You’re told everything.”

That lack of freedom is seen most clearly in a student-athlete’s demanding schedule, Hall said. The inability to work a part-time job on top of practices puts financial strain on some athletes, like Hall, who were already struggling to make ends meet. Finances were often still tight at home, despite being relieved of the burden of paying for school. That’s where Hall said the Pell Grant helped him and his family.

Hall said many of his teammates at Ohio State would send their Pell Grant checks to their families to help out at home. For those that didn’t, the money went towards buying extra food, a new set of clothes or a pair of shoes. Regardless of where the money went, Hall said receiving a Pell Grant was a celebration for every recipient.

“Playing football in high school put me in a position to get a full athletic scholarship, but once you get there, having that day-to-day money on campus is the challenging part,” Hall said.

During his freshman year at Ohio State, the maximum amount a student could receive from a Pell Grant was $4,000 per academic year. Receiving a Pell grant, which one becomes eligible for based on financial need, kept some football players from having to go behind the NCAA and the school to get some extra cash, Hall said.

“What the Pell Grant does is it allows us to not have to do illegal things to make a couple extra dollars, to pay for an outfit or to pay for shoes or to pay for whatever it may be,” Hall said. “The temptation for the football player or the basketball player to sell a jersey or to take a check or cash from somebody illegally is there because they are struggling. They are struggling at home. What do you do when mom is living check-to-check, the lights aren’t on at home and you’re playing for this great university?”

When people think of student-athletes, images of game day and bronze trophies usually come to mind. So does a coveted full-ride scholarship.

The glory they hope to achieve on the field or the court is often supported in part by an athletic scholarship. The reality for many student-athletes, however, is that those scholarships do not cover all their needs. Many athletes need to rely on federal aid, such as the Pell Grant, to get by.

A Lantern analysis found that athletic scholarships are not the only form of assistance that these athletes rely on.

Nearly one in five student-athletes received a Pell Grant during the 2016-17 academic year, according to data obtained through an NCAA financial report.

During the 2016-17 academic year, 47 percent of football players were on Pell Grants at Ohio State and 64 percent of them were on full-ride athletic scholarships as well.

In the high-revenue world of college sports, why are so many student-athletes in need of federal financial aid on top of athletic scholarships to make ends meet?

“What do you do when mom is living check-to-check, the lights aren’t on at home and you’re playing for this great university?” – Roy Hall

Athletic scholarships aren’t enough

A full-ride athletic scholarship, per the NCAA, covers the cost of attendance needed for a student to attend Ohio State, said Emily Haynam, a compliance officer with Student Financial Aid.

“The cost of attendance encompasses several elements, not just tuition and fees,” Haynam said. “Room and board would be included in there, an amount allotted for books and supplies, and an amount allotted for other expenses related to the cost of attendance.”

The current cost of attendance for an in-state enrolled student living on campus is $26,706 and for off-campus students it is $25,770.

Pell Grants, because they are a form of federal aid, have no effect on how a school awards athletic scholarships, which are at the discretion of the NCAA and individual schools, said Dan Wallenberg, associate athletics director for communications at Ohio State.

Pell Grants can be used as a buffer for what is not covered by an athletic scholarship, such as groceries, car payments and personal items.

Many athletes rely on Pell Grants to get by because their athletic scholarships often don’t cover enough of their expenses, according to Sara Garcia, a higher education policy analyst at the Center for American Progress.

“What you see is scholarships that cover tuition and fees and room and board, but students still have other costs of attendance,” Garcia said.

A 2010 report by Ithaca College and a national athletes’ advocacy group found the average “full-ride scholarship” Division I athlete ends up paying an additional $2,951 annually in school-related expenses not covered by grants-in-aid.

This shortfall represents the difference between educational expenses such as tuition, fees, room and board and additional costs not covered by scholarships, from campus parking fees to calculators and textbook access codes required for classes.

Because of the demanding schedule and expectations of college athletics, Garcia said most student-athletes don’t have the opportunity to work part-time jobs or participate in work studies. Pell Grants can fill those gaps.

This discrepancy in how much scholarship money each student-athlete is awarded is in part because of how athletic scholarships are awarded. There are two different ways of distributing athletic awards: headcount sports and equivalency sports.

Headcount sports distribute a specific number of full-ride scholarships to players on a given team each year.

For example, all NCAA Division I football teams can award 85 student-athletes a full-ride scholarship. Those scholarships cannot be divided up to give more athletes scholarships. Other athletes, such as walk-ons, will be ineligible for an athletic scholarship until the following academic year after athletes vacate the program’s scholarship capacity.

In headcount sports, such as football, basketball and ice hockey, a school can award any amount to athletes and it counts as a one full scholarship, regardless of the amount.

“Even if you give them less than a full grant, they’re going to count as a full grant,” Wallenberg said. “[Ohio State doesn’t] do that and we wouldn’t let that happen because it would just be punitive to the student-athlete at that point in time.”

Equivalency scholarships are different than headcount sports in that equivalency sports allow coaches to divide a single full-ride scholarship among multiple student-athletes. The NCAA still mandates how many scholarships there are to hand out, but the individual amount given to each athlete is determined by the coaches.

For example, the NCAA allows 9.9 scholarships be available for all Division I men’s soccer teams. If a player was allotted half of the cost of attendance by his coach, that player accounts for half, or 0.5, of a scholarship from the total 9.9 scholarships available. Same goes if a player is offered a quarter of a scholarship, that would count as 0.25 and go into the total 9.9 equivalency scholarships.

The amount of these scholarships will differ depending on if the athletes are in-state or out-of-state, due to tuition fees varying, but the proportion would remain the same.

“They can have partials and portions, but they can’t go over that 9.9 in their general allotment. Each coach is different in how they awarded their scholarships and their percentages,” Wallenberg said. “It could be based solely on their athletic ability, it could be athletics and academics, it could be contribution to the team.”

Since these scholarships are split among several athletes, full scholarships are rarely offered to every athlete who play on equivalency-scholarship sports. This can pose a problem for athletes who aren’t on a full-ride scholarship.

For example, there are 40 student-athletes on the Ohio State men’s track and field team. Because track and field is an equivalency sport, there are only 12.6 scholarships available, per the NCAA. While it’s possible that each athlete can receive a portion of a scholarship, there’s no way that every student-athlete could receive a full-ride scholarship under this model.

With 21 members, just over half of the track and field team is on a Pell Grant.

Ebtire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2018/05/student-athletes-look-to-pell-grants-to-subsidize-education/
 
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Player compensation lawsuit vs. NCAA could usher in new round of conference realignment

Those in the know believe the NCAA is headed for a loss in this soon-to-be-decided case


In a Northern California district court, conference realignment may take an urgent, unexpected turn. The ongoing Alston v. NCAA trial seeks an injunction against current NCAA scholarship limitations (room, board, books, tuition, cost of attendance). This is the mother of all pay-for-play lawsuits to date in that it basically seeks to end the longstanding "collegiate model."

In their closing arguments last week, the plaintiffs suggested that conferences "permit the individual conferences to make their own determinations" in compensating players.

In response, former Congressman Tom McMillen, the leader of a Division I athletic directors organization, said leaving such decisions to the conferences "would be the Wild West."

Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick took it to another level.

"It would be fascinating," Swarbrick told CBS Sports. "It would be a disaster … but fascinating. I think there is a very significant chance that ruling would produce a new wave of conference realignment."

Realignment is a hot-button term in college athletics that should get the attention of administrators and fans alike. Tearing apart conferences for the purpose of increased revenue began in earnest 15 years ago. That's when the ACC began a ruthless expansion that eventually killed the Big East and a certain level of gentlemanly conduct among commissioners.

Since then, traditional rivalries have been ripped asunder while conferences organized around a membership that looked most desirable to networks that pay the highest rights fees.

Now, everything is on the table again in the name of money if the plaintiffs -- a former West Virginia running back and former California center -- prevail.

Using Swarbrick's suggestion, if the Alston plaintiffs win, conferences could reorganize around like-minded schools with the same spending philosophy toward athletes if scholarship restrictions go away.

The SEC would conceivably be all in, willing to spend whatever it would take to compensate players and win them away from rivals. The likes of Stanford and Duke? Not so much.

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While the NCAA would likely appeal all the way to the Supreme Court, it doesn't mean the issue would be dead. In fact, experts agree players will eventually be further compensated in some form -- if not through this suit, then through others that are waiting in the pipeline.

But does that hasten the next wave of realignment that is hovering over the sport one way or another?
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Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...usher-in-new-round-of-conference-realignment/

Interesting article; however, regardless of the initial ruling it will be years before all the appeals play out.
 
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Fair Pay to Play bill now in governor’s hands after unanimous state Assembly vote

Just one hurdle remains in Senate Bill 206’s journey to becoming a law.

SB 206, also known as the Fair Pay to Play Act, passed by a unanimous 72-0 vote in the California State Assembly on Monday. If it passes, the bill would grant student-athletes at California universities the ability to profit off their name, image and likeness.

Gov. Gavin Newsom now has 30 days to either kill the bill or sign it into law.

NCAA rules currently prohibit student-athletes from making any money or profit outside of a scholarship, restricting access to sponsorships, endorsements and agents. SB 206 directly opposes these bylaws, but the NCAA may have trouble restricting the bill should it become law.

NCAA president Mark Emmert wrote a letter to California lawmakers in June urging them to not pass the law, alluding to action that could bar UCLA, Stanford University, USC, UC Berkeley and others from NCAA events if they allow athletes to get paid. With one abstention, the bill unanimously passed the California State Assembly’s Committee on Higher Education less than a month after the letter.

Entrie article: https://dailybruin.com/2019/09/10/f...rs-hands-after-unanimous-state-assembly-vote/

NCAA Sends Letter to CA Governor over Bill Allowing Athletes to Earn Income


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The NCAA sent a letter to California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday, explaining the ramifications of the state's Senate Bill 206 should it be signed into law.

Under the bill, college athletes in California would be eligible for compensation under an "unrestricted name, image and likeness scheme." The NCAA Board of Governors insisted that passing the bill would "wipe out the distinction between college and professional athletics and eliminate the element of fairness that supports all of college sports."

The NCAA also stated in the letter that the 58 NCAA schools in California would no longer be permitted to compete in NCAA competitions if the bill is passed since they would have an "unfair recruiting advantage" over the other member schools across the nation.

Per Steve Berkowitz of USA Today, the California State Assembly passed the bill by a 72-0 vote Monday. If Newsom signs the bill into law, then college athletes in the state of California can begin profiting off their own name, image and likeness beginning Jan. 1, 2023.

In the letter to Newsom, the NCAA noted that while it is working on allowing student-athletes to use their own likeness, it doesn't believe they should be paid to play:

"The NCAA continues to focus on the best interests of all student-athletes nationwide. NCAA member schools already are working on changing rules for all student-athletes to appropriately use their name, image and likeness in accordance with our values—but not pay them to play. The NCAA has consistently stood by its belief that student-athletes are students first, and they should not be employees of the university."

While passing the bill into law could result in big-time schools such as USC, UCLA and Stanford getting dropped by the NCAA, it could also create a ripple effect across the country.

Since other schools would conceivably lose top student-athletes to California-based schools, it could compel other states to pass similar laws in the future.

The NCAA expressed its belief that the bill is "unconstitutional," though, and it is clear that the bill becoming a law would not be the end of the longstanding question over whether student-athletes should be paid.

Entire article: https://bleacherreport.com/articles...or-over-bill-allowing-athletes-to-earn-income
 
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Missed the article above but my initial reaction is: Good. Let the athletes profit off of their likeness and take money from whoever is offering. All of this talk of "B-b-but it'll ruin competitive balance" is a farce after watching Alabama vs Clemson Part 4, with Part 5 very likely.
 
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damnit .. i swear how stupid can OSUs board be... I know Drake is the chairman but damnit to hell.. this university make so many stupid unforced errors its not even funny... this isn’t even really about tOSU but because Drake is associated tOSU gets tainted
 
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The tweet has been nuked, what did it say?
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its sports by brooks and he has a gigantic axe to grind against OSU for some reason but it just highlights that Drake is the chairman and signatory and pretty much sent the letter

dont know why the twitter isn’t working if you click on it it will take you to it
 
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its sports by brooks and he has a gigantic axe to grind against OSU for some reason but it just highlights that Drake is the chairman and signatory and pretty much sent the letter

dont know why the twitter isn’t working if you click on it it will take you to it

Yeah. I clicked the link and it said the page no longer existed even though I was signed in to my Twitter acct. Probably just a Friday the 13th glitch!

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I'm glad the University's President is spending his valuable time arguing for the NCAA's Ottoman Empire era rules.
Here, Drake, let me break this down for you...
- The Bill doesn't take effect until 2023.
- Your "constitutional" argument is laughable... you're really going to insist the Constitution gives NCAA right to take rights away from people? Does not compute.
- This is what CA does, love it or hate it. They set a law that will affect Industry standards, and thereby drive the conversation and implementation how they want it. NCAA has had ~20 years where it's been overtly obvious, to me at least, that players will eventually have some form of compensation. The NCAA has refused to move an inch... now CA is going to take it away from you and tell you how you will update to the 21st c.
- The bill was basically unanimous. You understand Liberals and Conservatives can't agree on the color of the sky? The NCAA is in Rand Paul objecting to "providing healthcare to 9/11 first responders" territory...
- Your responsibility is to Ohio State, not grandstanding for a trash organization like the NCAA.
 
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Tim Tebow Called Out By ESPN Colleagues, Media, NFL Players For Saying College Athletes Shouldn't Make Money

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ESPN is thrilled with Tim Tebow today. Many media members, including some colleagues at the World Wide Leader, are not.

Tebow went on the network's daily hot-take factory show known as First Take and gave the show the attention it craves when he unleashed a rant about a California bill that would allow college athletes to profit from endorsements.

The former Florida Gators quarterback is vehemently against students making any money and this did not sit well with many folks in the media, and he was called out repeatedly on Twitter. There was even some good, old fashion ESPN-on-ESPN crime.



Entire article: https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/20...a-saying-college-athletes-shouldnt-make-money



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This issue is as old as the game. I watched a Van Heflin movie this morning called Saturday's Heroes, made in 1937. He was booted off the team for selling game tickets ($3.30 on the tickets :lol:), and resented the fact that his school made $250,000 off college football, which was a $40 million business nationally. Another school had to kick a ringer off their team, since he was past his 4 years of eligibility.
 
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This issue is as old as the game. I watched a Van Heflin movie this morning called Saturday's Heroes, made in 1937. He was booted off the team for selling game tickets ($3.30 on the tickets :lol:), and resented the fact that his school made $250,000 off college football, which was a $40 million business nationally. Another school had to kick a ringer off their team, since he was past his 4 years of eligibility.

No reminiscing about taking your grandson to see it in the theatre when it was released?
 
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Bill proposed in New York aims to share college athletics revenue directly with student-athletes

As the state of California moves forward with a push adopt a law that would allow student-athletes to receive compensation for the use of their name and likeness, a new bill proposed in New York aims to go one step farther. Senator Kevin Parker has proposed a bill that would allow student-athletes to be compensated directly from the school’s annual revenue.

As written, Senate Bill S6722A in New York seeks to allow student-athletes (including college football players) to be able to receive compensation for the use of their name, likeness or image; the ability to hire an agent; and to receive an even distribution directly from the school from the university’s athletics revenue. The bill intends to require schools to set aside 15 percent of revenue earned from ticket sales and distribute that evenly among every student-athlete at the school.

This could impact three FBS schools in New York; Syracuse, Buffalo, and Army. New York also has a handful of FCS programs as well, including Fordham, Stony Brook, and Colgate. If the bill gains any traction, it would impact each school differently due to the range in ticket revenue generated by each school. The proposed bill currently sits in committee right now and has not been scheduled for a date on the Senate floor in New York.

The NCAA will frown upon this bill, just as it has in California, and it would be expected schools in New York would not be in favor of such a bill. The NCAA has already threatened the state of California with potentially removing all championship events organized by the NCAA from the state. A similar threat to New York would be the typical response if needed. That may not impact the college football world much, although it could mean no NCAA basketball tournament games being played in New York, a state that has routinely hosted NCAA basketball tournament games across the state. The Pinstripe Bowl should be safe because it is not run by the NCAA (although the NCAA could refuse to certify the Pinstripe Bowl if it really wanted). But we are far from the point to have that discussion.

Entire article: https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...etics-revenue-directly-with-student-athletes/
 
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