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Small Guards

Discussion in 'Buckeye Basketball' started by Xevious, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. Xevious

    Xevious Recovering Arcade Junkie

    I was reading the post regarding going small next season and it brought to mind a discussion I’ve been having recently regarding small guards.

    Our current roster has the shortest guards since OB has been here. I’m not bashing short guys, I’m 5’7" on a good day, but I’m sure everyone knows it helps to be taller in basketball. Short players need to physically solid and/or very quick (Dead-eye shooting from 3 is also a big plus) and our guards do not seem to exhibit these traits. B10 guards average about 6’3" and only PSU has guards as short as ours. This effects us on both ends of the court. On D the shorter guard has to stay closer to his man, is less of a threat to block shots, and has more trouble rebounding. On the other end of the court, smaller guards have more problems getting open for jumpers, are blocked more often, and may have trouble seeing or passing to open teammates. This is just stating the obvious that if you have to players with equal ability, the taller player has the advantage. While 6’1" is not extremely short, I think having more than one 6’1" player on the court guarantees at least one mismatch.

    Here’s the listed height for our guards for the 7yrs OB has been here.

    Current 03-04 guards
    JJ 6’5" 200
    Billings 6’3" 210
    Fuss 6’1" 200
    Stockman 6’1 180
    N. Dials 6’1" 175

    02-03 Guards
    Connolly 6’5" 210
    Jernigan 6’3" 200
    Sally 6’3" 195
    Darby 6’1" 195
    Fuss 6’1"190

    01-02 Guards
    Connolly 6’5" 210
    Boban 6’5" 240
    Brown 6’4" 200
    Darby 6’1" 195
    Fuss 6’1"190

    00-01
    Connolly 6’5" 210
    Doylan Robinson 6’5" 210
    Boban 6’5" 240
    Brown 6’4" 200
    Darby 6’1" 195

    99-00
    Redd 6’6" 215
    Boban 6’5" 230
    Doylan Robinson 6’4" 210
    Brown 6’3" 190
    Darby 6’0" 200
    Scoonie 5’10" 185

    98-99
    Redd 6’6" 205
    Boban 6’6" 230
    Singleton 6’5" 190
    Doylan Robinson 6’4" 210
    Coleman 6’3" 190
    Brown 6’3" 190
    Scoonie 5’10" 185

    97-98
    Singleton 6’6" 200
    Redd 6’5" 193
    C. Davis 6’4" 223
    Coleman 6’3" 190

    #Note fluctuations in player heights are in the programs and are not typos.
     
  2. RAMdrvr1

    RAMdrvr1 All Galaxy '14 NCAA Pick'em Champ

    On most teams, I would probably agree with your argument that bigger guards are better. There are advantages of being taller. But you may have defeated your own argument by posting the measurements of our guards from the past few years. Other than Michael Redd (who didn't play much defense until his last year), our best all-round guards have been Stockman, Darby, Dials (all 6'1"), and Scoonie (5'11"). Plus we have the probable Ohio Mr. Basketball this year and a true scoring machine Butler (6'2") coming in next year. Granted, Stockman and Dials have yet to make their mark as really good OSU guards, but I'm willing to bet that they will.

    It's easy to notice the extremely talented taller guards, but I'm sure that there is a lot of tall guards sitting on the bench all over the country, also.
     
  3. Xevious

    Xevious Recovering Arcade Junkie

    Actually I think you can get away with one short guard, and 2 for short stretches of time, but my point is we have two on the floor a majority of the time. Brown (6'4") was the 2G for essentially 3 years after we went to the 3 guard lineup, with 6'6" Redd or 6'5" Boban manning the 3G. This year our 2Gs are all 6'1" except for Billings. If you look at the previous guard lineups listed, the shorter players are usually the PGs. Darby subbed for Penn, BFC subbed for Darby. Even Scoonie who was physical, and very quick, had trouble with bigger athletic guards. I thought Ricky Moore's size advantage over Penn was a big advantage when we played UConn in the F4.

    On offense I believe in most cases shorter guards can adapt unless they are matched against a bigger guard who is a great defender. On the defensive side their lack of size will always present possible missmaches and even post up opportunities for the opponents.

    I'm also quite sure you are right that there are tall guards sitting around the country, but I don't think that proves anything since there are a lot of short guards sitting too, and thats all we have on our bench.
     
  4. RAMdrvr1

    RAMdrvr1 All Galaxy '14 NCAA Pick'em Champ

    You've made some good points. I think that if the smaller guard gets help when he is posted up by the larger guard, just like the smaller forward or center gets help, then there is no real advantage. Most smaller guards are quicker, and most of the time can make up the heigth difference that way. Unfortunately, R. Moore was real quick, also.

    I can honestly say that I wish N.Dials was 6'5" :biggrin: !
     

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