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Thad Matta (OSU's All Time Winningest Coach & 3x B1G COY, Butler HC)

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Archie Miller is a HUGE Nike guy, mostly through connections from his brother Sean at Arizona.

Ohio State happens to be the biggest Nike school in the country. The combination of Miller and tOSU would be a boon to recruiting. Arizona gets fed "Nike kids" all the time. It doesn't make you feel the cleanest, but it happens in college hoops a lot through the AAU circuit, and I personally believe Archie would be an instant home run hire with built in advantages based on his relationships at Nike.

Living in the Carolina's, it's funny listening to NC State insiders say even though Archie is NC State alum, his connections at Nike make him want the OSU job the most. He recognizes the power of the name brand of Ohio State and Nike, and how powerful that is in the world of college basketball.
 
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Systems_id said:
Is Donovan even an option? Leaving OKC for OSU seems like a pretty large step down for him even with the departure of KD.
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No it's not an option. Billy isn't going anywhere, and is actually having a solid year with OKC based on their current roster. There are also some rumors of OKC being able to recruit Anthony Davis based on his relationship with Westbrook, or unloading some assets for a second superstar in a trade (Cousins is available).

Billy isn't throwing in the towel on the NBA just because Durant was soft and exited stage right.
 
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LitlBuck said:
I think that most people like more money and Ohio State can probably offer more money than most schools.

Yes, Miller is doing pretty well at Dayton but he is not playing Big Ten schools on a regular basis. I know that he is in a good conference but it is still not the Big Ten. I also do not know how good of a recruiter he is at Dayton. I mean is he really getting big-name talent and I am not saying that Matta is but I just want to know more about Miller and bringing in the big time guys.

Still do not think that Matta is going to be going after this season no matter what..
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I agree and I think that's unfortunate. I'm not saying Miller's the guy, he's just one possibility. But other than hope, there's nothing to suggest Thad magically can turn around and go 27-6 next season. For six years the Buckeyes have been worse than the year before and Thad's overseen all of it. I like him, and wish his early success would continue, but instead the program is sinking. He's being paid more than Urban Meyer. The results are not commensurate with that salary.
 
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Jake said:
I agree and I think that's unfortunate. I'm not saying Miller's the guy, he's just one possibility. But other than hope, there's nothing to suggest Thad is magically can turn around and go 27-6 next season. For six years the Buckeyes have been worse than the year before and Thad's overseen all of it. I like him, and wish his early success would continue, but instead the program is sinking. He's being paid more than Urban Meyer. The results are not commensurate with that salary.
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Yep. I was a staunch Matta supporter for years, even when people said he "couldn't win the big one" and said we could do better. When we started slipping, I was sure he would turn it around. Even after last season, I still held out hope. This year has turned me, I just cannot look at the trends of the last five years and justify keeping him around. It actually really pains me, because he won big the right way, he made me excited about OSU basketball again, and he seems like a genuinely good guy. His legacy is secure, but it's time to move on. It's surprising, because he's still relatively young, too. Guess we'll never know how much his health has contributed to this slip and what might have been.
 
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NFBuck said:
Yep. I was a staunch Matta supporter for years, even when people said he "couldn't win the big one" and said we could do better. When we started slipping, I was sure he would turn it around. Even after last season, I still held out hope. This year has turned me, I just cannot look at the trends of the last five years and justify keeping him around. It actually really pains me, because he won big the right way, he made me excited about OSU basketball again, and he seems like a genuinely good guy. His legacy is secure, but it's time to move on. It's surprising, because he's still relatively young, too. Guess we'll never know how much his health has contributed to this slip and what might have been.
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Yup. I've said it before, but at the very least Matta needs to completely clean house as far as his assistants go. Much of the decline can be traced back to when guys like Paulus and Dickerson were hired. That's pretty much the only way Thad gets several more years if I were Gene.
 
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Jake said:
How is he underrated?

He's the 7th highest paid coach in college basketball. The top 5 all have won national championships. This is the 4th consecutive season where his team has lost 10 or more games and, barring an epic late season turnaround, he'll fall short of 20 wins this season. Right now, he seems overrated.
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He was underappreciated until Marc Loving arrived on campus (4 years before that = Elite 8, FF, S16, S16). Since then, his team's struggles have caught up to the (previously overstated) criticisms .
 
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These comments are from July, 2016:

"After the Florida game I told the guys two things: No. 1, I said I'm tired of the B.S. I'm going back to coaching basketball. I'm going back to running this program the way we did when we got here,"

Why did he deviate in the first place?

"The second thing is some of you are going to transfer. You don't know it yet, but whatever you do don't come see me. Just shoot me a text, because I'm tired of looking at you. And we got rid of some guys that we needed to get rid of. We got rid of problems, but we kept solutions."

Those solutions are currently 15-13, and second to last in the B1G, after 4 of 5 members of the 2015 recruiting class bailed after one season. Were they problems? Perhaps. But who recruited them?
 
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Jake said:
These comments are from July, 2016:

"After the Florida game I told the guys two things: No. 1, I said I'm tired of the B.S. I'm going back to coaching basketball. I'm going back to running this program the way we did when we got here,"

Why did he deviate in the first place?

"The second thing is some of you are going to transfer. You don't know it yet, but whatever you do don't come see me. Just shoot me a text, because I'm tired of looking at you. And we got rid of some guys that we needed to get rid of. We got rid of problems, but we kept solutions."

Those solutions are currently 15-13, and second to last in the B1G, after 4 of 5 members of the 2015 recruiting class bailed after one season. Were they problems? Perhaps. But who recruited them?
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So, he kept solutions.

Evidently not particularly effective solutions, but solutions nonetheless.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
Its probably time to go for Thad but if he chooses to coach again I would not be surprised if he was more successful than our next coach.
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Yeah I'm not expecting the success Thad had but I at least want a team that looks like they've seen a basketball before. I think OSU will be middling with some success here or there but I kind of feel like our days of being a powerhouse in the B1G are probably over unless Smith somehow hits a home run, which I'm honestly not expecting.
 
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Jake said:
These comments are from July, 2016:

"After the Florida game I told the guys two things: No. 1, I said I'm tired of the B.S. I'm going back to coaching basketball. I'm going back to running this program the way we did when we got here,"

Why did he deviate in the first place?

"The second thing is some of you are going to transfer. You don't know it yet, but whatever you do don't come see me. Just shoot me a text, because I'm tired of looking at you. And we got rid of some guys that we needed to get rid of. We got rid of problems, but we kept solutions."

Those solutions are currently 15-13, and second to last in the B1G, after 4 of 5 members of the 2015 recruiting class bailed after one season. Were they problems? Perhaps. But who recruited them?
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This is what's mystifying about the recent run of hoops.

How does a veteran coach lose his ability to spot character in his recruits & lose the culture of the program.

One class can be excused but it's almost as if he can't bring in guys who fit into his scheme anymore. I could be missing someone but I think Andre Wesson is the only guy he's publicly praised this year

I wonder how much of the problem is the assistants. Going back to Xavier he he surrounded himself with good assistants & guys who were future head coaches but those caliber guys aren't around anymore
 
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