The Ark, Logistics

[MaxBuck]

wow. you're not helping yourself here. a horse and a mule are the same KIND of animal. they are both in the equus family.

Same "kind" of animal? Hmm. Are spiders and fleas the same "kind" of animal? How exactly do two animals need to relate to one another to be the same "kind?" Who makes up these definitions -- you? By the way, equus is a genus, not a family.

There is no shame in being an ignoramus; I myself qualify as an ignoramus in many fields, including particle physics, linguistics, linear algebra and Sanskrit. You, lv, may well qualify as an ignoramus in the fields of evolutionary and genetic biology. As I say, there is no shame there, so long as you accept it and move on.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Same "kind" of animal? Hmm. Are spiders and fleas the same "kind" of animal? How exactly do two animals need to relate to one another to be the same "kind?" Who makes up these definitions -- you? By the way, equus is a genus, not a family.

who makes up the definitions? GOD.
spiders and fleas are not the same kind of animal. different species of spiders are the same kind of animal as other species of spiders. please dispense with the sarcasm, and take a moment to comprehend what i'm saying.

what i am referring to is what is stated in Genesis 1:25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.

the Hebrew word is miyn. here is what the Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon has to say about the Hebrew word for kind: Groups of living organisms belong in the same created "kind" if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool. This does not preclude new species because this represents a partitioning of the original gene pool. Information is lost or conserved?not gained. A new species could arise when a population is isolated and inbreeding occurs. By this definition a new species is not a new "kind" but a further partitioning of an existing "kind".

here is an article about the Biblical classification system.

There is no shame in being an ignoramus; I myself qualify as an ignoramus in many fields, including particle physics, linguistics, linear algebra and Sanskrit. You, lv, may well qualify as an ignoramus in the fields of evolutionary and genetic biology. As I say, there is no shame there, so long as you accept it and move on.

yeah. keep calling me a dumbass, without comprehending what i'm saying...

 

[MaxBuck]

please dispense with the sarcasm, and take a moment to comprehend what i'm saying.

lv, you are a poor one to lecture others on sarcasm. Your diatribes have been laden with sarcasm directed toward those who fail to "comprehend" what you are saying. Believe me, I've tried, but what you say is largely incomprehensible to me, for one reason or another.

So long as you insist upon using the Bible as your science textbook, there is little purpose served by further dialogue between us.

(By the way, I did not call you a "dumbass;" I said you may be an ignoramus in biology, while admitting to myself being an ignoramus in many areas.)

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

5 days later, and still no counter.

 

[AKAK]

the Hebrew word is miyn. here is what the Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon has to say about the Hebrew word for kind: Groups of living organisms belong in the same created "kind" if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool. This does not preclude new species because this represents a partitioning of the original gene pool. Information is lost or conserved?not gained. A new species could arise when a population is isolated and inbreeding occurs. By this definition a new species is not a new "kind" but a further partitioning of an existing "kind".

Hmm... didn't realize the ancient Hebrews know what gene pools were.

 

[kinch]

Hmm... didn't realize the ancient Hebrews know what gene pools were.

Exactly what I was trying to figure out.

Also, apparently it goes Family - Kind - Genus - Species. :)

 

[AKAK]

Exactly what I was trying to figure out.

Also, apparently it goes Family - Kind - Genus - Species. :)

Of course... I'm bored out of my mind on dial up at the Ohio State Fair right now... and... well... I'm getting a good education on the shallow end of the gene pool.

Don't get me wrong... there are plenty of perfectly normal people here... but... some of these motherfuckers must have neither mirrors nor friends... because...its the only explanation for them leaving the house looking like they do.

Back to your regularly scheduled debate.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Exactly what I was trying to figure out.

Also, apparently it goes Family - Kind - Genus - Species. :)

good grief. it was written in ancient Hebrew. the word genus hadn't been invented yet. Linnaeus didn't come out with his classification system until the 1750's, but the Greeks knew what a genus was.

 

[kinch]

good grief. it was written in ancient Hebrew. the word genus hadn't been invented yet. Linnaeus didn't come out with his classification system until the 1750's, but the Greeks knew what a genus was.

And apparently they understood genetics, as well, correct?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

And apparently they understood genetics, as well, correct?

Well, they apparently understood microbiology. Because, according to many conservative Christians, they were able to keep grape juice from fermenting in the desert with no refrigeration.

 

[lvbuckeye]

And apparently they understood genetics, as well, correct?

they understood it well enough to know that creatures reproduce after their own kind...

Well, they apparently understood microbiology. Because, according to many conservative Christians, they were able to keep grape juice from fermenting in the desert with no refrigeration.

 

[Gatorubet]

good grief. it was written in ancient Hebrew. the word genus hadn't been invented yet. Linnaeus didn't come out with his classification system until the 1750's, but the Greeks knew what a genus was.

No shit! Socrates and Plato were both said to be genuses....