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The Beginning of the End of Football?

I'd be curious to know the prevalence of C.T.E. in the male population in general. Not denying that football most definitely increases the odds, but it would be interesting to see the comparison.

That and, most important for parents, what impact does participation in lower levels of football have?

I can tell you anecdotally that I have actively steered my son away from football. If there is even a 1% extra chance of life long brain injury from just participating (not random catastrophic injury which there is an element of in every sport) then why take the risk?
 
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That and, most important for parents, what impact does participation in lower levels of football have?

I can tell you anecdotally that I have actively steered my son away from football. If there is even a 1% extra chance of life long brain injury from just participating (not random catastrophic injury which there is an element of in every sport) then why take the risk?

Yeah, but you steered him into baseball where he could end up being a Red. Debilitating brain trauma doesn't seem so bad now, does it?
 
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I'd be curious to know the prevalence of C.T.E. in the male population in general. Not denying that football most definitely increases the odds, but it would be interesting to see the comparison.
There's a lot of CTE among soccer players.
There's not nearly as much revenue for lawyers to suck dry, so we've heard only a little about that. Even less for hockey.
 
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I heard an interview with the Study's author that admitted it was not scientific and very biased because well the only folks that donated their brains or those of their loved ones suspected something was up and that certain sample sizes were too small to draw conclusions...
 
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I heard an interview with the Study's author that admitted it was not scientific and very biased because well the only folks that donated their brains or those of their loved ones suspected something was up and that certain sample sizes were too small to draw conclusions...
Well good luck counter-suing, or avoiding the PR disaster if the NFL did so.
 
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There's a lot of CTE among soccer players.
There's not nearly as much revenue for lawyers to suck dry, so we've heard only a little about that. Even less for hockey.
I heard about soccer first, many years ago, regarding heading the ball. The comparison then was to being slowly punch drunk after retirement.

Regarding the average incidence in population, there isn't much research. But there is a reason for that. Without it being common among normal people, it did not present itself as something to research. It is so common among football players, the visible effects after retirement, that it was investigated. The guess is around 1% or less. Even if only the brains submitted to study in the NFL research had the possibility of having it (obviously an extreme), that would still put football players at around 9%, for the NFL.
 
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I heard about soccer first, many years ago, regarding heading the ball. The comparison then was to being slowly punch drunk after retirement.
Right but you don't see many kids being steered away from it.
Regarding the average incidence in population, there isn't much research. But there is a reason for that. Without it being common among normal people, it did not present itself as something to research. It is so common among football players, the visible effects after retirement, that it was investigated. The guess is around 1% or less. Even if only the brains submitted to study in the NFL research had the possibility of having it (obviously an extreme), that would still put football players at around 9%, for the NFL.
The important question is how severe the symptoms are for players who do not get compensated for their football skills. That's not what's going to drive this (fear and scary statistics will), but to me, an NFL career is still worth considering and possibly a college education if you take it seriously. It's a risk but not unlike what soldiers accept going in to their service.
 
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Head trauma in soccer and rugby are just now coming under investigation in Europe. A friend of ours is on the UK's Rugby governing board and their data is only now being gathered.

It's more than heading the ball in soccer, a fair number of head-to-head collisions take place along with hitting the head on the goal bars.
 
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Yeah, but you steered him into baseball where he could end up being a Red. Debilitating brain trauma doesn't seem so bad now, does it?

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Head trauma in soccer and rugby are just now coming under investigation in Europe. A friend of ours is on the UK's Rugby governing board and their data is only now being gathered.

It's more than heading the ball in soccer, a fair number of head-to-head collisions take place along with hitting the head on the goal bars.

Not sure if whoever you are referring to here is playing soccer correctly.
 
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