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The Big Ten Is Irrelevant - Again

Houston is probably the best team in Texas, what a gut check. Not sure what to think of A&M thus far.

I do think Oklahoma will still win the Big 12. It's not like they lost to bad teams. Meanwhile the rest of their conference is losing to garbage or playing patsies.
 
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This thread is alive and well two years later with 630 replies and 33,000 views. That's all you can ask for on an internet message board.
I didn't mean anything bad by it. I thought the same thing. Basically everyone did. The B1G looked totally dead after that weekend. And it looked like it was gonna be a long season for OSU. That VT game was awful, honestly was one of the worst games we've played in the last 15 years (save the Fickell season).
 
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I didn't mean anything bad by it. I thought the same thing. Basically everyone did. The B1G looked totally dead after that weekend. And it looked like it was gonna be a long season for OSU. That VT game was awful, honestly was one of the worst games we've played in the last 15 years (save the Fickell season).
No offense taken. The premise of my post does look somewhat ridiculous in retrospect, since the Buckeyes won the national championship that year. Everything in the post was "true" at the time it was written, but I do have to admit that it was a bit of highbrow trolling. BP was trying to gain a presence on Twitter, and this was one of the first "articles" that we tweeted out. I don't know that this article got much of a response on Twitter, but it certainly made waves here (and the ripples are still flowing two years later). As a message board, that's really what we strive for - intelligent, animated discussion that generates web traffic. Mission accomplished.
 
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No offense taken. The premise of my post does look somewhat ridiculous in retrospect, since the Buckeyes won the national championship that year. Everything in the post was "true" at the time it was written, but I do have to admit that it was a bit of highbrow trolling. BP was trying to gain a presence on Twitter, and this was one of the first "articles" that we tweeted out. I don't know that this article got much of a response on Twitter, but it certainly made waves here (and the ripples are still flowing two years later). As a message board, that's really what we strive for - intelligent, animated discussion that generates web traffic. Mission accomplished.

Reverse jinx accomplished.
 
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True but if that does play out then when it comes to nut cutting time, they are still a 2 loss conference champ.

That's what makes me think this could be the year we see an at large beat out very weak conference champs for playoff spot(s).

Oh yes. Part of me is very much hoping BX gets dumped from the playoffs again... but this time for a Mid Major. After all, if OU is conference champ... isn't Houston really the BXII Champ? (assuming they finish skrong)
Part of me isn't all that keen to play against Herman. It'd be the end of the post-tOSU love affair. Suppose it's inevitable though.
 
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Oh yes. Part of me is very much hoping BX gets dumped from the playoffs again... but this time for a Mid Major. After all, if OU is conference champ... isn't Houston really the BXII Champ? (assuming they finish skrong)
Part of me isn't all that keen to play against Herman. It'd be the end of the post-tOSU love affair. Suppose it's inevitable though.

Welp, if neither loses another game its gonna be pretty tough to keep the winner of Louisville/Houston out, I'd think. My concern with Houston is generally depth, plus Ward's health... they can win most games without him, but, they need to win all their games. Obviously, Louisville would be in a similar spot if Jackson were to get dinged. Louisville gets Clemson sooner rather than later which I'd actually say helps them... my big concern here (and this sort of is my concern for Ohio State too) is I've seen 2 games each from Florida State and Oklahoma where they couldn't block anybody... at all... (FSU just kind of out big Played Ole Miss and stole it) so we'll see where they really are as part of the grind.
 
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Welp, if neither loses another game its gonna be pretty tough to keep the winner of Louisville/Houston out, I'd think. My concern with Houston is generally depth, plus Ward's health... they can win most games without him, but, they need to win all their games. Obviously, Louisville would be in a similar spot if Jackson were to get dinged. Louisville gets Clemson sooner rather than later which I'd actually say helps them... my big concern here (and this sort of is my concern for Ohio State too) is I've seen 2 games each from Florida State and Oklahoma where they couldn't block anybody... at all... (FSU just kind of out big Played Ole Miss and stole it) so we'll see where they really are as part of the grind.

I didn't even realize those 2 played.
But that could almost be even more glorious... Louisville beats Houston beats OU.
Houston is a 1-loss whose beaten the 2-loss BXII champ fighting for the #4 spot. Let's just say by some strange coincidence that Ohio State is #1 -- merely for setting up the replay scenario.

Even though Houston didn't win out... how do you leave them out for OU? They beat OU. Let's say their 1 loss was close w/o Ward. They technically have a better record. OU has already lost - decisively - to the playoff team they'd likely face. Even if UH got to the Final and had a rematch against UL... it'd be a justified one with their healthy starting QB?
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Even though Houston didn't win out... how do you leave them out for OU? They beat OU. Let's say their 1 loss was close w/o Ward.

Oh, I wouldn't leave them out in that scenario. (for OU)

Having said that, I don't think the real world is going to have to worry about it. I was going more along the lines of where Houston/Louisville would stack up compared to an eventual Big XII winner, and I think its pretty well. If the Baylor smoke and mirrors show somehow holds up maybe it gets sketchy but, other than that... I think their bigger concern against a 1 loss team is if someone can get through the PAC and one and wins the CCG big... the problem with all this is we have a long way to rejockey teams to the top 10 (Oklahoma not one because too many people have to lose twice for them to get on the move)
 
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Houston is probably the best team in Texas, what a gut check. Not sure what to think of A&M thus far.

I do think Oklahoma will still win the Big 12. It's not like they lost to bad teams. Meanwhile the rest of their conference is losing to garbage or playing patsies.
I'll tell you what to think of Aggy...just like the last three years, they're massively overrated in September.
 
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http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ipts-with-sec-as-the-nations-best-conference/

How the Big Ten flipped scripts with SEC as the nation's best conference
It took a while, but the SEC is no longer the best league in the land

There are dates when college football narratives get rewritten. Urban Meyer rewrote the script twice for the sport's two highest-profile conferences.

The first came for the SEC on Jan. 8, 2007, when Florida bludgeoned Ohio State to start a run of seven straight national championships by four different SEC programs. Then came Jan. 1, 2015, for the Big Ten. After years of serving as a punching bag in many high-profile games, the Big Ten could finally think big again.

No. 18 Wisconsin edged No. 19 Auburn at the Outback Bowl. No. 8 Michigan Staterallied past No. 5 Baylor at the Cotton Bowl. Most important, Meyer and No. 4 Ohio State took down No. 1 Alabama in SEC country at the Sugar Bowl during the College Football Playoff semifinals.

"Maybe the Big Ten isn't that bad," Meyer said that night. "Maybe the Big Ten is pretty damn good, or certainly getting better. The mind is a fragile thing. ... There's no doubt that when we saw Wisconsin beat Auburn, that was a major, major moment for us to win this game."

Look at the Big Ten now. With three weeks left, four of the top eight teams in the latest CFP Rankings are from the Big Ten, which has completely flipped scripts with the SEC.

It's the Big Ten with multiple ways to make the playoff. It's not the SEC, which for the third straight year needs No. 1 Alabama's dominance to be relevant in the playoff race.

It's the Big Ten (and the ACC) with possible ways to put two teams in the playoff. It's not the SEC, which, when the CFP was created, brokered a compromise with the Big Ten so the four best teams would get picked and not the four best conference champions.

It's the Big Ten with the most accomplished group of coaches in the country. It's not the SEC, which outside of Nick Saban is rebuilding with the league's least-experienced group of coaches in 52 years.

Cont'd ...
 
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It's the Big Ten (and the ACC) with possible ways to put two teams in the playoff. It's not the SEC, which, when the CFP was created, brokered a compromise with the Big Ten so the four best teams would get picked and not the four best conference champions.
After Louisville's ass-whupping at the hands of Houston, the ACC now has only one team that can make it.
 
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OK, the Big Ten continues to make the mistake of always giving in to "Come down to our part of the country and play." Witness Michigan agreeing to Play Florida at Jerry's World in 2017. Why not a home and home? Why not make the gators travel a) outside Florida (yeah, I know Texas isn't Florida, but Texas isn't yankee country either) b) outside the South?

In my memory LSU and Tennessee are SEC teams that agreed to leave the Confederacy to play a game. In the 80s the tigers played at Ohio State and were defeated and then played Wiscy in Green Bay this year and lost. A few years back Tennessee traveled to San Francisco and were beaten by a mediocre Cal team. Funny what playing out of your region can do to a team.

Now then, time for Chicago and the Big Ten to get off their ass and demand that the NATIONAL playoffs be distributed evenly throughout the regions where the Power five conferences play.
 
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