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Ryan Mallett (R.I.P.)

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buckeyesin07;1977040; said:
I was shocked on draft day that Mallet fell that low. The fact that Kaepernick went that far ahead of him is an absolute joke, and doesn't bode well for Harbaugh's likelihood of success in the NFL.
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I don't think second round picks that haven't played real NFL games yet say much about a coach's likelihood of success.

Keep in mind that it wasn't just Jim Harbaugh that passed on Mallett. The entire league did, most of them twice.
 
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3074326;1977868; said:
I don't think second round picks that haven't played real NFL games yet say much about a coach's likelihood of success.

Keep in mind that it wasn't just Jim Harbaugh that passed on Mallett. The entire league did, most of them twice.
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Yeah, it's pretty early to pass any judgement on Kaepernick. He was always seen as pretty raw...his potential ceiling was his draw. Harbaugh has a good track record with QBs, so if we'll see if he can develop him. Also, people passed on Mallet because of off-the-field stuff, not talent.
 
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3074326;1977868; said:
I don't think second round picks that haven't played real NFL games yet say much about a coach's likelihood of success.

Keep in mind that it wasn't just Jim Harbaugh that passed on Mallett. The entire league did, most of them twice.
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Granted, the number of coaches that passed on Mallett is more than 1. But Harbaugh picked a QB in Kaepernick that I don't see ever doing anything at the QB position in the NFL, and, in doing so, passed on Mallet. That is a dumber decision, IMO, than any other NFL HC made in passing on Mallet. That point aside, not all teams needed a QB, so your "entire league passed on him" argument isn't convincing.
 
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NFBuck;1977930; said:
Yeah, it's pretty early to pass any judgement on Kaepernick. He was always seen as pretty raw...his potential ceiling was his draw. Harbaugh has a good track record with QBs, so if we'll see if he can develop him.
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When your QB decisions to date have left you in a position where you're calling a guy like Daunte Culpepper, who hasn't been a starting QB in the NFL since '05, let's just say you aren't doing so well so far.
 
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buckeyesin07;1977936; said:
When your QB decisions to date have left you in a position where you're calling a guy like Daunte Culpepper, who hasn't been a starting QB in the NFL since '05, let's just say you aren't doing so well so far.
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Well, he's in his first year, and was left with Alex frickin' Smith. It's not like he was left Joe Montana, or hell, even one capable QB. I don't know that I agree with them re-signing Smith, but it's not like there was much out there besides him. Plus, I think they're aiming at Luck next April...
 
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buckeyesin07;1977931; said:
Granted, the number of coaches that passed on Mallett is more than 1. But Harbaugh picked a QB in Kaepernick that I don't see ever doing anything at the QB position in the NFL, and, in doing so, passed on Mallet. That is a dumber decision, IMO, than any other NFL HC made in passing on Mallet. That point aside, not all teams needed a QB, so your "entire league passed on him" argument isn't convincing.
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The team that picked Mallett didn't need a QB. They had and have much more pressing needs.

Predicting a first-year coach's success based on a second-round pick is about the least convincing argument one can make, imo.

EDIT: Also, it's the preseason. Stats and performance in the preseason don't mean much.. The Lions were 4-0 in the preseason the same year they went 0-16 (if I'm not mistaken). I'm not sure what's more ridiculous - the first-year head coach/second round pick prediction, or making predictions of backup QBs for the foreseeable future based on the two players' first career preseason games.
 
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3074326;1977967; said:
The Lions were 4-0 in the preseason the same year they went 0-16 (if I'm not mistaken).
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I think you're right. But that was before they had this guy:

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