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The Many Troubles of Marcus Vick (merged)

He was a much better passer than Michael was at that point in their development with better QB mechanics.
He was a much better passer than Michael is right now. Marcus had very good touch on intermediate and deep throws. Michael's deep ball is more like "chuck it up in the air and pray Alge Crumpler comes down with it."
 
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If he is able to stay out of jail I would look for the Falcons to give him a shot as a free agent pickup. Maybe his brother could keep him out of trouble. If they are set on Mike being their QB (which I don't agree with) they might as well draft Marcus to be their backup of the future when Mike gets hurt like he always seems to do.
 
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I don't know how pro scouts measured Vick and where they projected him to go in the draft, but being a thug has NEVER stopped any pro team from putting significant bucks in some kids hands. Lawrence Phillips, Darryl Strawberry, Randy Moss...how long a list do you want?

"Can this kid win me a game or two? Will he put meat in the stands?" If the answers come up "yes," the kid WILL be drafted.
 
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So I guess the real question is not will he be drafted by the NFL GMs but would any of YOU guys draft him if it was up to you. Discuss...

No, but I'm a fan of pro style QB's (Manning, Palmer, Rothleswhatever, Leftwitch). Athletic QB's are too hit and miss especially in the NFL. I like a QB who can win a game even if they can't run. If you can stop a Vick from running you will win the game.
 
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I would interview him at the combine, and tell him I will consider using a pick on him, but he has to be prepared to accept a contract that includes off field behaviour clauses and the likely hood of becoming a WR much like Randle El.
 
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I would interview him at the combine, and tell him I will consider using a pick on him, but he has to be prepared to accept a contract that includes off field behaviour clauses and the likely hood of becoming a WR much like Randle El.

I still don't think it would work. Hell, Beamer spent 3 years giving him heart to heart talks.

^^^^^I agree...he will definately shank somebody before this saga ends...
 
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Yeah, he was on his last strike at VaTech when all this happened. He can't follow rules. Another selfish ass athlete that thinks everything in the world should be handed to him. Look at his quote when asked about being booted off the Hokies, something along the lines of "no big deal, I'll just go to the next level baby". What a jackass.
 
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No, but I'm a fan of pro style QB's (Manning, Palmer, Rothleswhatever, Leftwitch). Athletic QB's are too hit and miss especially in the NFL. I like a QB who can win a game even if they can't run. If you can stop a Vick from running you will win the game.
Spot on post. Look at the NFL playoffs right now. How many teams that -- even prior to wildcard weekend this past week -- made the playoffs have a mobile QB? Zero.

Athletic QBs work in college, and in the pros it certainly doesn't hurt to have a QB with the ability to pick up a first down on their feet, like Elway or Young could, but the concept of having an elusive RB-like specimen at the QB position hasn't worked once, and NFL GMs have been trying it for 30+ years.

In the 1980s, Randall Cunningham was the first Michael Vick, and just like Mike, Cunningham went from HoF QB to bust to HoF QB again based solely on whether he posterized someone with a spin move or a juke. Show me a QB who rushes for 700 yards and completes 55% of his passes and I'll show you an NFL team that doesn't get past the first round of the playoffs. Not surprisingly, Cunninghams most successful season was probably '98 in Minnesota, when he completed over 60% of his passes but only ran for 150 yards. Once his knees were shot he had to use his arm and his head to stay employed, and he was a better QB for it.

As Ron Jaworski points out on the "Match-Up" studio show, you don't go from college to the NFL and get faster, more elusive, or more athletic. From the day you take your first shot from an NFL LB or DE, it's all downhill from there.
 
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Spot on post. Look at the NFL playoffs right now. How many teams that -- even prior to wildcard weekend this past week -- made the playoffs have a mobile QB? Zero.

Athletic QBs work in college, and in the pros it certainly doesn't hurt to have a QB with the ability to pick up a first down on their feet, like Elway or Young could, but the concept of having an elusive RB-like specimen at the QB position hasn't worked once, and NFL GMs have been trying it for 30+ years.

In the 1980s, Randall Cunningham was the first Michael Vick, and just like Mike, Cunningham went from HoF QB to bust to HoF QB again based solely on whether he posterized someone with a spin move or a juke. Show me a QB who rushes for 700 yards and completes 55% of his passes and I'll show you an NFL team that doesn't get past the first round of the playoffs. Not surprisingly, Cunninghams most successful season was probably '98 in Minnesota, when he completed over 60% of his passes but only ran for 150 yards. Once his knees were shot he had to use his arm and his head to stay employed, and he was a better QB for it.

As Ron Jaworski points out on the "Match-Up" studio show, you don't go from college to the NFL and get faster, more elusive, or more athletic. From the day you take your first shot from an NFL LB or DE, it's all downhill from there.

Great post. I think you'll see one buck the trend soon though. Some kid from Tejas who looks pretty good...
 
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Great post. I think you'll see one buck the trend soon though. Some kid from Tejas who looks pretty good...

VY will make it in the NFL if he can learn to beat people with his arm and use his legs to get away from pressure and scramble every once and a while. If he comes in and tries to run for 3 TD's per game his career is going to go much like Vick's. Personally I think VY has to tools to be an NFL QB with some work with an NFL QB coach.
 
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Ha Ha


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