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The Walking Dead (Official Thread)

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OH10 said:
Almost everything about the episode sucked.

Sasha: Her relationship with Abraham was so poorly developed that anything more than one flashback was a TOTAL waste of time and an unnecessary attempt by the writers to get the audience to care about a couple that existed for approximately one episode. I did like that she set herself up to be a zombie to take out Negan, but it turned out to be completely unnecessary and ineffective.

Rick: Fucking idiot. "Hey, weird group I barely know, here's a bunch of guns!" I also tend to think that taunting the man about to kill your son is a particularly bad idea. But hey, Rick's a moron, so it fits.

Garbage people: I don't get it at all. The show didn't do anything to develop this group of characters. I have no idea how it is that they are not already subjugated by the Saviors and yet they are apparently aligned with them now after evading them for so long.

The Showdown: When the Garbage People turned on Rick, that was checkmate. I knew, in that moment, the show would have to do something incredibly unrealistic to get them out of it. And they did, by having the Hilltop and the Kingdown show up at THE SAME DAMN TIME. The fighting was impossible to follow, poorly captured. There was one point where Ezekiel and his group appear to be chasing people down the street of Alexandria and it feels to me, as a viewer, like I'm right there... in the studio... because the camera work and editing was that fucking bad. Also, how did nobody major die during this sequence? Bullets were flying everywhere.

The Tiger: Does this animal just magically know who the bad guys are? And if he's that fucking smart, why didn't he kill Negan (who had a bat in his hands) over some random dude just standing there? Oh, I know... because they need Negan for next season.

I hated it. The whole episode. The whole season. The characters are too stupid for any of this to make sense. All of them.
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The problem is, that the kingdom and hilltop did both arrive to help alexandria in the comics. But they were already together and aligned. The show didn't put forth the time to make that link before this battle scene." Many of the lines from rick and others were also directly from the comics.
 
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Bucklion said:
Let's add some...how stupid and useless are the average Saviors? One pulled Sasha off of Negan and immediately got mauled...uh, we're not talking about bad-assed Sasha anymore, it's one fucking Walker. And these are the assholes we're supposed to think everyone is afraid of? And the whole Garbage people...fuck that [Mark May] all to hell. Fuck the guy who wrote that. And then fuck the next guy for not coming up with something better. What was the deal for? 10 or 12? 10 or 12 what? Nice exposition. And why when Michonne and Carl are jumping the Garbagers in the chaos, does Rick magically stand there until she shoots him in the ass? You've taken out 5000 walkers at once by yourself but now you're scared of one dirty stick bitch with a pistol? And somebody please, please, please tell me how you could be stupid enough to think that shutting a person in a coffin for several hours is, like, a good idea? Even the last speech by Maggie, that sounded like a great Series Closer, not a season finale going off to war. The whole thing invokes some emotion in spots but jeeezys these writers bite JarJar wang.
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I thought I had missed something while playing on my phone with the whole 10 vs 12 thing.
and for Rick just standing there. he's the highest profile person in the whole camp. he's just standing there staring at garbage leader. none of the Saviors take him down? nobody just looks up and sees the unarmed leader of your enemy in the wide open and thinks "hey maybe Negan will give me something awesome for killing Rick".
 
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Agree, pretty much completely, OH10. I never understood or cared about the whole Sasha/Abraham thing and I certainly didn't care about flashbacks from a coffin. Was she rubbing a few out in there? What was that?

I'll probably watch again next season, but apathetically, ironically, and with plenty of self-loathing.
 
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OH10 said:
Almost everything about the episode sucked.

Sasha: Her relationship with Abraham was so poorly developed that anything more than one flashback was a TOTAL waste of time and an unnecessary attempt by the writers to get the audience to care about a couple that existed for approximately one episode. I did like that she set herself up to be a zombie to take out Negan, but it turned out to be completely unnecessary and ineffective.

Rick: Fucking idiot. "Hey, weird group I barely know, here's a bunch of guns!" I also tend to think that taunting the man about to kill your son is a particularly bad idea. But hey, Rick's a moron, so it fits.

Garbage people: I don't get it at all. The show didn't do anything to develop this group of characters. I have no idea how it is that they are not already subjugated by the Saviors and yet they are apparently aligned with them now after evading them for so long.

The Showdown: When the Garbage People turned on Rick, that was checkmate. I knew, in that moment, the show would have to do something incredibly unrealistic to get them out of it. And they did, by having the Hilltop and the Kingdown show up at THE SAME DAMN TIME. The fighting was impossible to follow, poorly captured. There was one point where Ezekiel and his group appear to be chasing people down the street of Alexandria and it feels to me, as a viewer, like I'm right there... in the studio... because the camera work and editing was that fucking bad. Also, how did nobody major die during this sequence? Bullets were flying everywhere.

The Tiger: Does this animal just magically know who the bad guys are? And if he's that fucking smart, why didn't he kill Negan (who had a bat in his hands) over some random dude just standing there? Oh, I know... because they need Negan for next season.

I hated it. The whole episode. The whole season. The characters are too stupid for any of this to make sense. All of them.
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I agree with everything that you said, word for word (Sasha rubbing one out, Alexandria stuck in an impossible situation that there was no realistic way to get out of, finding it impossible to follow the gun battle at the end, and the goddamn tiger that ONLY killed Saviors :rofl:) except for hating the whole season. There were some decent moments throughout the season, knowing that this was all leading up to an epic showdown between Alexandria/Hilltop/Kingdom and Negan. The problem is that the writers/producers conpletely fucked up the part that I was waiting an entire season for. What a fucking letdown that episode was.
 
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If I am being devils advocate, I think the point of the Sasha flashbacks was to show the guilt she felt. The guilt for not stopping Abraham from going to his death, the guilt for saying Maggie should be on her own. The problem is, that should have been shown 4 episodes ago, so that her suicidal charge into the compound would have made Morse sense. Instead, they did it in the finale because they wanted Abraham in it to cover up the BIG SECRET of who got bashed in the first episode, so they missed the boat on this making sense by about a month.
 
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I think the way everything played out wasn't because the writers planned it or pictured it or wanted it or dreamed it or anything else you can think of. I think it all played out that way because the writers are the biggest fucking donkeybrained bunch of idiots to ever use Microsoft Word. They're being given too much credit for assuming that it happened as they planned or that there was any reason behind it.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
I think the way everything played out wasn't because the writers planned it or pictured it or wanted it or dreamed it or anything else you can think of. I think it all played out that way because the writers are the biggest fucking donkeybrained bunch of idiots to ever use Microsoft Word. They're being given too much credit for assuming that it happened as they planned or that there was any reason behind it.
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Comic geeks trying to write a TV show without the TV guy that originally adapted the idea. What could go wrong?
 
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I wanted to see Negan beat the tiger to death. That dialogue could've been epic: "You must be shyytting me... a fucking TIGER? That's GRRRReat! Are you seeing this, Rick? A tiger could've saved your boy, but decided to eat that asshole instead and now he's dead... and now I'm going to knock young Carl here into the dirt in front of you and I might even feel a little bad about it later when I'm getting my cock sucked on my new tiger-skin rug, because, damnit, if he had just had a better father, this wouldn't have had to happen, Rick..."
 
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