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Time to get a grown up job (Help Please)

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by The KSB, May 4, 2004.

  1. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    I'll be getting my BS over the Summer. I had intended to pursue a career as a computer programmer upon graduation. However, due to a multitude of reasons I don't feel that is the right path for me. I'm actually hoping to go in a more business/management direction and could use a little advice.

    While I won't have my bachelor's in Business I took just about every business course I could schedule (several accounting couses, management courses, business communication courses, etc). I have done well so far, out of six full time semesters I've made the President's list 4 times, and the dean's list twice. My final GPA should be around 3.79. I've also been inducted into the Golden Key Society, meaning I'm in the top 15% of my class. Also, It has been only 3 years from the time I started back at college. So I'm hoping that since I've been caring for a family and working at the same time I'm going to school that would show that I have decent time management skills. Not to mention an exemplary military term.

    But here's where I could use some help. Does anyone have a job they could give me. I promise I will kiss your ass from sunrise till sunset and swear it tastes like ice cream. I can kiss more ass faster and better than anyone you have ever seen. Not only will I kiss you ass, I'll thank you every minute of every day for letting me do it. Yes, when it comes to the art of ass kissing I'm friggin Michelangelo. No, but seriously, I could use some advice on where to start a career at, since I've been working my way through school I haven't had time for internships. I'm considering a few management training programs but I haven't found any openings yet. I've even thought of trying my hand at some type of sales. So does anyone have any kind of help or advice? I'd appreciate it.
     
  2. Hubbard

    Hubbard Administrator's Staff Member Bookie

    Sorry I don't have a job for you, but I will (hopefully) be in the same situation this summer. Graduating and trying to get a real job, not necessarily in my field yet (Chemistry), but a real job none the less. Good luck to you!
     
  3. ekeen

    ekeen Banned

    Advice:

    Get a job in sales if you can survive the painful start. I too was a business (Finance/Accounting) major; good grades, etc. I made jack shit out of college and watched all my buddies who were communications majors with sub 3.0s make 75K+ their first year out of school. All of them are doing even better now. The dirtly little secret mom and dad kept from all of us: salespeople and entrepreneurs are the richest and most successful people in the world.

    BTW, spent 5 years, acctg/finance and now in sales; my life is more enjoyable, more flexible and I make more $$.
     
  4. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence

    Now this is a thread I can contribute on.

    I got a BS in Mechanical Engineering. Had a good job but saw the light. I got into sales then got a MBA. I continued on to get a concentration in Technology Management. I am now VP of Business Development of a technology company and do quite well. I am constantly taking classes and learning new things.

    I have to ask do you know what you like to do? Could you sell, some people really are not good at it. Some hate rejection. It also depends on what you sell.

    Where are you looking to live? The local economy may dictate what you can do. Do you have any real world work experience? In what field?
     
  5. ekeen

    ekeen Banned

    Hey great point bucknola:

    Continue to learn and develop your pedigree. This will separate you from the pack. Last but not least, work ethic counts for everything, a cavalier "I am smarter than everyone else" attitude does not.
     

  6. good point ekeen
     
  7. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    KS, look into posting your resume' and searching through Monster.com. I've had quite a few friends who were successful in that route.


    Basically just find something that makes you happy. I never expected to become a teacher...I majored in English with the intent of going on to Law School. However, my supposed one year teaching experiment in the South opened my eyes to education. Its been almost 6 years since I decided I wanted a year by the beach before Law School. Find your calling and everything else will fall into place
     
  8. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    pm me your email address and get me your resume.....i can promise that i can get it infront of several decision makers (all friends and all in sales).....where are you willing to work? im not promising a job...just that your resume wont get tossed in the trash.....

    ive been in sales for almost 15 years....i have a good network.....
     
  9. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence

    OK

    DI and Ekeen, care to share what you sell?
    Are you in sales, marketing or management?

    KSB if you have the tech background sales is still pretty lucrative. Not the 7 figure 90's but you can do 6 figures easy.
     
  10. ekeen

    ekeen Banned

    I have to be honest with you. I have opened up a little in the past about my personal life but I would rather be completely anonomous on this board. Columbus is a big small town 'ya know and with my political views I may be unpopular in some circles!

    I'll give you a hint. I see a lot of doctors and my office is a car.
     
  11. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    ekeen....thats not sales.....you really are just a glorified shelf stocker.......

    :p
     
  12. ekeen

    ekeen Banned

    HaHa! Hey man, it beats working for the local accounting sweatshops here in Columbus.

    I want to start something on the side too that will test my sales ability. You know, it's amazing that when one starts to make a commission check you want to make more and more of them afterwards, and bigger! Infectious.
     
  13. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    DiHard, check your in box. Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm pretty open as far as where I'm willing to work. I'd prefer to stay near the eastern half of Ohio. Working in Columbus would certainly have its advantages in the fall.

    Ekeen, I'm guessing you're a rep for a pharmaceutical company. I would ask you if you like it or not but I think I already know the answer.

    Any advice on how to learn the finer points of selling?
     
  14. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence

    I respect ekeen's privacy but the cat is out of the bag. If you can get to district manager, pharmaceutical sales pays well. There must be 1000's of pharmaceutical reps in Columbus, I'm sure your privacy is secure. Now if you sell DME there is some serious coin to be made.

    KSB
    If you are going to sell simple things Neil Rackham (sp?) wrote a book called SPIN selling.

    If you are going to sell complicated things Bosworth wrote a book on Solution Selling.

    Just type in sales in AMAZON but get ready for a lot of responses. There are also hundreds of websites, again try google.

    Almost any company will train you on their products and process. Are you comfortable speaking in public? Toastmasters is a little old and dated but it will give some critical practice in public speaking. It is cheap and there are chapters everywhere.


    OK DiHard what do you sell?
     
  15. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    personally....ive been trained on spin.....its effective....but there is better...

    i like the mlpq method myself.....its a bit rigid, but its results are golden....

    take a 6 mo. decision down to 2 mo.......that works for me...



    on another note.....i have had a great training with brian tracy regarding time,money and career focus.......
     

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