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Toledo RB Ray Williams (official thread)

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Buckskin86, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    What do you guys think?? Do you think we can convince him to go to prep school for a year before coming to tOSU? He has some nice offers that he would be passing up. We couldn't convince Wheelwright and lost him. Do we take the chance and lose Williams.
    scUM2 has accepted quite a few borderline grade kids like Devin Hester. He had to sit out his first year until he qualified and now in his 2nd year seems worth the risk.
    Is Ray Williams someone we want to risk losing?

    Any thoughts??
     
  2. This is a tough call b/c you are never garunteed that I kid is going to go anywhere after a year at prep school. I don't think that this idea is bad but maybe there is still time for him to see how close he is to qualifying. Also we would be wise to watch out for that because with Pittmann and Haw coming in next year if we take Williams, if he quailfies, that would give us 3 so we would probably be out of the question for some others the following year. Does any of that make sense? I don't think that it is worth the risk myself I just hope the best for him where ever he goes.
     
  3. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    I'd like to see more film on Williams before I could say what I hope the coaches do. Gary loves the kid and Duane doesn't seem all that enamored with him. As far as talent evaluators go I'm not sure there are many better than Duane. With Pittman and Haw on board it certainly does give the coaches more flexibility with Williams. If Walker or Jones(we have no chance, I know) were to sign I don't think we take the chance. If he has an unconditional offer from Nebraska like Wheelright did from Minnesota there is a good chance he doesn't go the FUMA route. If he is not able to qualify I hope he goes that route. There are definitely tough decisions to make in the recruiting game and the Williams situation is certainly one of them.
     
  4. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    With such a large class of recruits this year, I wouldn't mind seeing OSU take a chance on Ray, even though there's very slim chance he qualifies. What I would like to see is for the OSU coaches to build up a good relationship with Ray, have him go to FUMA for a year, get his academics in order, and enroll at OSU in 05 with full eligibility. Eddie went to FUMA, look how his career went.

    When I first saw Ray play in HS, I was blown away by his vision and his shiftiness. He wasn't big at all back then. He's built himself up fairly well, and I think he'll have a good chance at hitting around 195 by the time he's in college. Get him on a college S&C program, and his size will not be a problem. His vision more than makes up for it.
     
  5. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    I'm leaning towards the offer Ray Williams camp. I read today that he has a Florida offer. I'm pretty sure Zook wouldn't come all this way to recruit a marginal player. I'd like to see more film on Williams to see what all the fuss is about. For the reasons Cleve gave I think he's worth the risk and at worse he commits, doesn't qualify and goes the FUMA route. Everything I have read leads me to believe he wants to be a Buckeye. I hope that happens. Maybe they want to hear from Jones and Walker before they offer?
     
  6. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    They could be waiting on Jones and Walker to make their move... but, Williams is basically a member of the next (05) recruiting class anyways, so their decision doesn't necessarily impact RW's.

    I think they're waiting for the end of RW's first semester of his senior year to see where his grades stand. Just a hunch, but I bet Coach Tressel told RW that if he shows progress and improves his grades, an offer will be forthcoming, even if they know he won't qualify. Again, I think he's worth it.
     
  7. BuckBackHome

    BuckBackHome Wolverine is largest member of weasel family

    Coach Tressel and his staff seem to have a pretty good track record with offering kids who are right on the fence academically. I would think if he gets an offer it means that he has a good chance of qualifying. Of course, I do not think he will get an offer if the coaching staff does not think the talent is there.
     
  8. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    Tough question... he is a heck of a talent, but without grades he's worthless (ie can not be on the team) as far as football is concerned...

    I hope the staff keeps in contact with him and gets him to go to FU, then we get him next year...
     
  9. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    He had a another great playoff game last night in Benedictine's 44-0 win

     
  10. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    Thanks for the update, 86. Williams may force the coaches to offer with performances like that.
     
  11. Buckskin86

    Buckskin86 Moderator

    '04 OH RB Ray Williams to WVU

    http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/107710048689090.xml

     
  12. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    Wow, that's a shocker, not to mention disappointing.
     
  13. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    Makes getting Ringer that muc more important IMO... too bad he didn't wait for the Bucks next year, however prob. better for him to take a scholie while one is on the table... WVU might have stole one from us, if he can get/stay eligable....
     
  14. buckeyebri

    buckeyebri Embrace the Hate

    That is two of Ohio's better players that have gone elsewhere due to grades. Williams being the other to MSU. Add that with Morgan and we lost 3 very talented players to academic issues.

    While I think that this hurts initially in terms of these recruits, I think it will pay dividends in the future. OSU is definitely making a stand regarding its stature as an institution of higer learning as opposed to being a football factory. Future recruits will know that they will have to have game and grades to be a Buckeye....
     
  15. IUbuck

    IUbuck Newbie

    good luck to mr. williams at WVU i think he'll be a good one
     

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