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Top 16 Impact Freshman for 2004

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Don't think Ginn should be #1 if the title is IMPACT freshman. Not because he doesn't have the skills, but I dont' see any opportunity other than special teams - and I don't think that is a given yet, though if he has been named as starter on returns, I stand corrected.
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But... On special teams he could have a Huge impact if you have a conservative offense and a big time Defense...

Also... to 'not see any opportunity' now doesn't mean there opportunities won't be there later in the season... since Ginn will both have a better idea of what's going on with the Defense (or Offense) than he does at the start of camp.... Its football... the second guys are always one play away from being the first guys.... see Santonio Holmes after the Drew Carter injury.

I see your point about 'opportunity'... but I have a feeling young Theodore is the type of kid that makes his own opportunities.

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I just think CB is more of a natural position for Whitner. He got burned a couple times last year because playing the middle of the field (a la MLB, SS, Nickel, or FS) is more an instinctive & reactive position than a pure athletic position than CB.

I saw him as a Corner in the making all along. Where he played last year doesn't determine (in my eyes) where he ends up.
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It was my understanding that Whitner was moved to safety precisely because he excelled at playing in the middle of the field with the play in front of him (I suppose no one is very good with it behind them). But I could be mistaken.... or the coaches might be in retrospect anyway...

Also... you never responded to my scathing review of Timothy Dalton's James Bond Career... I'm sad.
 
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biggest impact on their teams, and possibly also the National Scene.
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These are always fun, but 16? Maybe some will have a starting role on their team, but 16 impact players (my definition: game changing players) as freshman is doubtful. There are a few each year -- Vincent was one last year -- any others that significantly influenced the games?
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Peterson may be in the best position if he wins the starting roles. Lineman and QB's probably have some of the more difficult transitions.
 
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The kinds of plays Ted Jr. is likely to make -- playing corner and returning kicks -- are all game-changers. Interceptions and great kick returns shift momentum, demoralize opponents and often turn Ls into Ws.

Calling him an impact player is entirely valid, maybe even an understatement.

When he played the Army All-Star game with all those other future Freshmen, he was a gamebreaking MVP. Same-same in the Big 33 game.

There is no other Freshman, eligible or ineligible, at any university in the land who is as deserving of that #1 ranking as Ted Ginn Jr.
 
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The kinds of plays Ted Jr. is likely to make -- playing corner and returning kicks -- are all game-changers. Interceptions and great kick returns shift momentum, demoralize opponents and often turn Ls into Ws.

Calling him an impact player is entirely valid, maybe even an understatement.

When he played the Army All-Star game with all those other future Freshmen, he was a gamebreaking MVP. Same-same in the Big 33 game.

There is no other Freshman, eligible or ineligible, at any university in the land who is as deserving of that #1 ranking as Ted Ginn Jr.
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My point is that I don't think he will get enough opportunities to be called an "impact" anything. Riding the pine on defense won't help. Riding the pine on offense won't help either. I think everyone is expecting WAY too much from this kid in his first year. Let him play some special teams......maybe get in on some dime defense late in a game if he warrants it.... NO WAY is he an impact player this year. He may be next year or even more likely the year after. I think even next year he could be solid-good, but not a freakin all american.
 
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Ryan Kalil will start at center for USC. Most people expect Byers to be starting before the season is over. I have PoliSci with him Tuesdays and Thursdays at 9am. Seems like a nice guy, and he has a hell of a handshake. I didn't realize there were actual perks to being named Gatorady POY, but he was sporting a Gatorade backpack and waterbottle.
 
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Tedward will have Musberger going wild by week 6. Just a guess. He's too fast to not get on the field on occasion to make something happen. They got AJ on during his Freshman year for action. They should get Ted on for more than that. Any guy who's ahead of him probably wants to see him get on and make a play. He's that guy. The one the other football players want to watch play.

He's like fast forward.
 
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My point is that I don't think he will get enough opportunities to be called an "impact" anything. Riding the pine on defense won't help. Riding the pine on offense won't help either.
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The question wasn't who will be a Heisman candidate as a Freshman, BuckStocks. It was, among Freshmen, who will be the top impact players.

When Teddie played against those guys -- last year's HS Seniors, this year's Freshmen -- he blew everybody else away. He was MVP at the Army All-Star game and the star of the Big 33. He didn't come to tOSU to redshirt, BuckStocks. He's gonna play. Think Archie as a Freshman, or if you're too young to remember that, think Larry Fitzgerald. He's that good.

If you can name one other FRESHMAN who will have more impact, go right ahead.
 
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Coach Tressel has stated that Ted Ginn is practicing 95% of the time at CB. And what's wrong with saying Lyons or Dukes is better suited for playing time right now in the Big Ten? Ted Ginn doesn't have the body to get much playing time as a WR right now.
 
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Buckeyesoldier - from everything I've seen from the coaches, along with people who have seen practices and scrimmages, Ginn will not play on O this year very much...and probably not at all in the first 2-4 games. He has been focusing more on D. These same individuals have also said that the two frosh WR's, Dukes and Lyons (or at least one of them), have a very good chance of seeing a lot of action this year.
 
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Folks, I think you're missing something here.

Even if Junior doesn't play a down on offense -- which I think is a dumb assumption, but let's go with it -- he will make interceptions and he will return kicks. There are no plays in football that impact the outcome of games more dramatically than picks and long returns. They change momentum, they instantly reverse field position and they frequently turn Ls into Ws. They're like a sucker punch to the gut of your opponent. That's what Ted will be doing this year and it will impact games big-time.

I also happen to believe Teddie will get lots of touches on offense, likely as a third or fourth wide-out, in spread formations that JT will be using more this year with his lighter/faster O-line.

All this begs the question: Why is anybody on this board down on TGJr.? The future is bright and full of promise, lads. Open your eyes!
 
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