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Top Mid-majors in bowls

Discussion in 'College Football' started by JXC, Dec 1, 2004.

  1. JXC

    JXC 17-2 since 2001

    You've got three mid-major teams that are arguably as good as any team in the country...Utah, Boise State, and Louisville. But, because of the stupid way this bowl system is set up. We've got Boise State playing Louisville...and Utah is going to play Pittsburgh.

    They are hyping the Boise State-Louisville game as the best game to watch this bowl season. And maybe it will be a good game...but that isn't the point. None of these 3 teams is getting to show if it belongs with the national elite. They are just playing themselves or lesser teams. We all know Utah can beat a team like Pitt...and whoever wins the Boise State-Louisville game will still be wondering how they would do against a BCS bowl team.

    They need to get their act straight. Utah somehow needs to be allowed to play Auburn. That's the match-up I want to see if Auburn is left out of the Orange Bowl. Let Auburn play Utah and let Miami/Virginia Tech play Pitt. It'd be a great story. Old Big East plays New Big East. Plus we'd get to see all 4 undefeated teams play each other. If Auburn plays the ACC winner, Auburn is going to win. And Utah is likely going to beat Pitt...so we are going to be left with 3 undefeated teams, and maybe 4 is Boise wins.

    The team I feel most sorry for in all of this is Utah. They are gonig to get into the BCS, but they aren't going to play a top 25 team. (I know Pitt is ranked in the top 25, but come on...they haven't played ANYBODY! Pitt is about as good as Michigan State or Northwestern.)

    It'd be nice if teams like Utah and Boise State could play teams like LSU or Georgia or Texas. Now those would be exciting games.
     
  2. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

    I don't feel too bad for Utah they got a lot time in the sun and are the first mid major to break into the BCS along with a nice bowl payout. When Pitt needed OT to beat 1AA Furman, I think that should have disqualified them from the BCS.
     
  3. Saw31

    Saw31 High Seas Rogue


    That's because it's going to be like a 70-63 game.

    These moron talking heads will bring up names from the past like Butkus, Singletary, Lambert etc., and in the next sentence pee their pants with glee when talking about a game like Boise State vs. Louisville.

    What ever happened to loving a great defense? I don't want to see basketball on turf. I'm sorry.
     
  4. JXC

    JXC 17-2 since 2001

    If Pitt would have lost that game to Furman, wouldn't they still be in this BCS game?
     
  5. Buckmark1

    Buckmark1 Rookie

    I totally agree. If these teams want to show they belong they need to play somebody to show it. Why won't these bowls let them? It would make for great stories leading up to the games.
     
  6. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

    yes, it would have been probably the most embarrasing loss for a team in a major bowl ever
     
  7. Sdgobucks

    Sdgobucks Pig on a wing

    If this happens the most funny part of it all will be that the bowls hate teams like Utah and Boise State, but all they will just be helping these teams out by putting them in games that they can easily win. If the BCS put Utah up against Chokelahomo or Auburn, then Utah would probably be smoked, and everyone could see that they don't belong. The way it sounds like it stands is that Utah will smoke Pitt in a BCS bowl, and prove that they do belong (at least in the fucked up system we have). In the end the bowls will dictate wether or not these non BCS teams will get another shot.
     
  8. JXC

    JXC 17-2 since 2001

    I think this is exactly what the BCS wants if there is an undefeated team in the top 6. Because teams like Oklahoma or Auburn don't want to play Utah. There is nothing good in it for them. If they win, big deal, they beat a mid-major. If they lose, they look like crap. Nobody wants to play Utah.

    I have given Pitt a new 11 game schedule...playing all Big 10 teams. Here is how it would turn out.

    ILLINOIS W 31-21
    INDIANA W 28-20
    @ Iowa L 9-24
    MICHIGAN L 17-24
    @ MSU L 25-31
    MINNESOTA L 31-34
    @ Northwestern L 33-35
    @ Ohio State L 21-34
    PENN STATE W 19-17
    @ Purdue L 17-31
    WISCONSIN L 20-22

    Final 2004 record: 3-8

    6 home games and 5 road games. A realistic Big 10 schedule.

    And I wasn't biased when I did this. I used the sagrin predictor ratings using 3.66 points for home field advantage. The margin of victory reflects what the predictor says, but I made the actual scores myself based on how high of scoring I thought it would be.

    All the games would have had the same result no matter where they were played except the Penn State and Northwestern games. According to the predictor, Pitt was so close to those teams, that the home team would have won no matter where it was played. So I made one of those a home game and one an away game. So I suppose you could make them 2-9 or 4-7 using this method depending on where the games are played.

    So now you get an idea of where Pitt would stand if they played a Big 10 schedule.
     
  9. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    Well, since this is becoming a Pitt-bashing thread, please allow me. Their worst performance of the year wasn't the Furman game, it was somehow managing to lose at home to Nebraska, who got 70 dropped on them and had absolutely no business beating anyone this side of Baylor. Toss in the fact they couldn't even separate themselves enough to pull out of a conference-title-tie with a team that lost to Temple, and you have all the makings of a deserved Poulan Weedwacker Bowl invitation to play against Troy. Unfortunately, they get to ruin someone else's BCS experience, and you know darn well it will be Utah, so the BCS commissioners can protect the big boys. This couldn't have worked out better for the moron BCS people: Not only do they have a mid-major crash the party, but they have a sacrificial lamb for them to play so that no one who matters' seasons are messed up, and Texas, who can never win a game that matters, is relegated to the Cotton Bowl. Yeah.
     
  10. JXC

    JXC 17-2 since 2001

    If you are just a fan, and don't care about the money...you'd probably rather see Texas in the Cotton Bowl against Georgia this year than in the BCS.

    But Pitt is bad...I mean...really bad. There are teams out there better than them that aren't even going to bowls. I just feel really bad for Utah. The BCS money and ABC prime time spot is going to be nice for them. So will the Fiesta Bowl rings. But you know all those players want their shot at a Big-name opponent. tOSU is going to get a better bowl opponent then Utah will.

    Utah vs. Pitt in the Fiesta bowl. Do you think that game will sell any tickets? Didn't Utah have trouble selling out home games? And how often to people who live in Utah leave Utah.
     
  11. kn1f3party

    kn1f3party Junior

    It may work out for Utah. If Utah, a non BCS school goes in there, and absolutely dismantles Pitt (as expected, by 30-50 points) they will have made their case to join the PAC 10.
     
  12. methomps

    methomps an imbecility, a stupidity without name


    Why? Pitt isn't a Big10 champ
     
  13. IrontonBuck

    IrontonBuck Walk On

    Before there was a BCS, the "mid-majors" rarely, if ever, got to play in the major bowl games. The disparity between the haves and the have nots has always been there.

    I think you should have to play a major schedule to be treated like a major.
     

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