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Game Thread tOSU at Indiana - Oct 13, 8 ET, BTN

MaxBuck;2235491; said:
I don't mean to derail the downer train here, but is our 115 points more than we've ever scored in any 2-game span?

Bill Lucas;2235495; said:
Rice and Pitt 1996. 70-7 and 72-0. Off the top of my head. Didn't do further research.

Bill Lucas nailed it. We also scored 48 and 83 (131 points) in consecutive weeks against Minnesota and Iowa in 1953. Also, keep in mind that 14 of the 63 points we scored against UNL were not scored by the offense (pick six by Roby and punt TD by Brown). All 38 points by UNL and all 49 points by IU were scored by their offense.

The point about the absolute shittiness of the defensive play during the last two games still stands...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2235472; said:
Building on my earlier point: We just gave up 87 points total to UNL and IU, more than any two-game span in our entire history. This was only the second time we've ever given up 38 points or more in consecutive games in the regular season...that was way back in 1893 when we gave up 38 points to Oberlin and 42 points to Kenyon (80 points total). The only other time we've done that at all was at the end of 2006: Regular season finale against Michigan (39 points) and BCSCG against Florida (41 points)...again, 80 points total.

To say the defensive meltdown of the last two weeks has been historic to an epic degree is not hyperbole.

I hate to bring up this game, but in 1902 we gave up 86 points to scUM and then the next week we beat Kenyon 51-5. 86 + 5 = 91.
 
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BlufftonBuckeye;2235370; said:
I think that's because we haven't had many good receivers in the last 10 years.

2011- Posey. Eh.
2010- Dane. He didn't drop passes.
2009- Robiskie and Hartline. Robiskie dropped his fair share of passes, and really wasn't/isn't that good. Hartline was good, didn't drop passes.
2007- Roy Hall, Gonzo, Ginn. Ginn was never a great pass catcher, just incredible elusiveness. Gonzo was a guy you could count on, didn't really have issues with drops. Roy Hall...eh.
2004- Drew Carter, Mike Jenkins. Carter wasn't really special or anything. Jenkins was good/great.
2001- Ken-Yon Rambo, Reggie Germany. Neither were that good.

So, in 10 years we had 4-6 solid pass catchers. I don't care who your coach is, gotta have someone to throw to.

You have the years wrong (I hope)....Those guys played with Smith and Krenzel one time each in those years, but not the ensuing season....
 
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Mike80;2235523; said:
You have the years wrong (I hope)....Those guys played with Smith and Krenzel one time each in those years, but not the ensuing season....

Those aren't the only years he has wrong. Robo & Hartline were gone after 08'. Not sure why he listed 2009.


Or maybe he's basing those years off of the final game (bowl) played.
Which would, technically be correct then.


A more glaring statement would be this.

Ginn was never a great pass catcher

Which of course was not at all true. Ginn was a reliable pass catcher
in the offense on top of great explosiveness.
 
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This is the same team that went 6-7 last year, finishing the season on a four game losing streak. It's quite a turnaround to already be 7-0.

Last year our offense was so bad, that teams didn't even need to try to score on us. They would just get a lead, and then play it safe and milk the clock because they knew we weren't a threat.

This year it's quite a difference. The exact same offensive players are on fire, and are now putting fear into every defense that still has to play us. But when the best FB in the country has to switch to defense to help out because of injuries, it paints a clear picture of how thin the defense really is. And say what you will about the amount of points given up, I felt like the defense was a key part in our success of winning our two biggest games of the year, Nebraska and Michigan State.

I am still in shock at how quickly this coaching staff has gotten things turned around here. With a bowl ban and no chance at the B1G championship game, it just made the chance of getting the players to focus that much tougher. Yet here we are at 7-0, and none of you thought we would be saying that.

I knew going into the game, that Indiana would put up points. Did you know that we forced Indiana to punt 8 times? That's a season high for them. The way the game played out, they were able to put a lot of points on the board. And a lucky call and some sloppy play late after being up 18 put the game back within reach. But I'm on the other side of this panic about the defense then most. They played below their ability last week, and we all want to see better, but I do not see them being so bad that we will start losing games. It's not the best defense in the country...nobody thought it would be coming into the season. But this year maybe it doesn't need to be for the season to still be a success.
 
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Buckeye Maniac;2235538; said:
And yet that's exactly the kind of thing you'd call out another poster for.

No, it wasn't. Initially, I was replying to BlufftonBuckeye that "Our defensive performance over the last two games was worse than any similar two-game series under DickRod." And in my post that you quoted, I specifically stated, "This was only the second time we've ever given up 38 points or more in consecutive games in the regular season." Note the words "given up 38 points or more in consecutive games". We didn't give up 38 points to Kenyon. While technically you are right that we did give up 91 points in consecutive games (four more than the UNL and IU total), and you can dance around like Honey Boo-Boo in celebration, the point is still valid in that it was our worst back-to-back defensive performances point-wise ever.
 
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JXC made some good comments in his posts. Last year Ohio State was 6 and 7 and of those games we were pretty close even in losing. Michigan State, Purdue, Illinois and Michigan could have very well been in the Victory column.

Even the 2002 season there were some close calls like Cincinnati, Purdue, Penn State, Illinois, Michigan and even the Nat/Championship game with
Miami. I guess none of us will ever want to go thru another season like
that again. And here we are 10 years later under another great coach like
Urban Meyer to hopefully keep us in the thick of things even though we can't be eligible for anything even if we can win them all.

What i am more interested in anything, is watching the progress of this team and its coaching staff this year. It's a real nail biter with every game and here we are still undefeated. That is the joy of it. With every game from now on we are a REAL work in progress. But who in there right mind would have ever thought that Urban Meyer would replace another great Coach like Jim Tressel. I would say that Ohio State is really fortunate and blest to be in this position. "Go Bucks"
 
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kippy1040;2235570; said:
JXC made some good comments in his posts. Last year Ohio State was 6 and 7 and of those games we were pretty close even in losing. Michigan State, Purdue, Illinois and Michigan could have very well been in the Victory column.

Totally forgot that Illinois beat us last year... We could have beaten Nebraska as well last year had Miller not gotten injured.
 
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MaxBuck;2235491; said:
I don't mean to derail the downer train here, but is our 115 points more than we've ever scored in any 2-game span?

The discussion is regarding the defense, not the entire team. A poster said the '12 defense was basically the same as the RichRod scUM defense during his tenure, and I responded with data and said I didn't think it was that bad, and finally he responded with data showing the last 2 games were indeed "that" bad.

Regarding the dates on the WR, I used the year they were drafted in, that's why the dates seemed off. And I never thought Ginn was a reliable pass catcher, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. There's a significant gap in my memory in 2006/2007, not sure why...
 
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