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Game Thread tOSU at Miami FL, Sept 17, 7:30 pm ET, ESPN

KingLeon;1994655; said:
No offense to Luke Fickell. I think he can be a very good coach.

But, Urban Meyer anyone???

Urban Meyer isn't some demiGod savior.

No one other than maybe Terrelle Pryor could have turned that dreck around last night. A true freshman QB and a 5th year senior with less than 20 passes in his career coming into the season isn't a situation where a coach can fix things immediately.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1994713; said:
Urban Meyer isn't some demiGod savior.

No one other than maybe Terrelle Pryor could have turned that dreck around last night. A true freshman QB and a 5th year senior with less than 20 passes in his career coming into the season isn't a situation where a coach can fix things immediately.

I agree re: Pryor. Last night's game probably did as much for his playing field legacy as any bowl game or regular season comeback win ever did.

I do want to make a point re: coaching though. Without pointing to any one specific hypothetical replacement, I think that better coaching and planning on the offensive side would have made the Buckeyes at least competitive last night, even with the personnel problems.
 
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For those interested, I found the culprit. Check the Game Preview, and the following is stated:

BB73's prediction: 27-23, Ohio State
Buckeyeskickbuttocks' prediction: 24-13, Ohio State

Bucklion's prediction: 24-21, Ohio State

Bucky Katt's prediction: 13-17, Miami

DaddyBigBucks's prediction: 27-16, Ohio State

JCOSU86's prediction: 27-21, Ohio State

jwinslow's prediction: 27-24, Ohio State


Fuckin' Bucky! :evil:
 
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Well, good luck to you guys the rest of the way - there's still a B10(+2) title out there to be won.
Proper adjustments, who knows?

Bauserman was horrific, but Miller showed flashes of what can be. Hall was great, and (forgot name) #7 on ST / and I think CB? looked good.
Phenomenal kicking game, especially the punter - solid consistent 50+ yard punts. There was one time where it was 4th and 17, got a penalty, booted it again,
got like a 51yd punt, but penalty again, 5 MORE yards (4th-and-27) and he smacked the SHIT out of the ball, downed at like the Miami 5.

I know we were all REALLY impressed with the punter in our area.

HAven't seen your schedule, but hopefully your bucks can hold on for the remaining games, if in-conf, that your players are out, and see if the staff makes adjustments to
make a run for the B10(+2). You got talent, no doubt, but the play-caling on both sides was hideous. It's obvious the OSU OC doesn't understand you can't run East-West on a team with speed,
just like I would expect OUR guys to not continuously try that against OSU.

O-line was great, and was getting a good push against our D-Line, and showed the ability to open holes.

If they can get Miller up and going, I really don't see it as bad as some are seeing it: D is pretty good, D-line was good, 2ndary was decent. O-line was great, as was Hall.
 
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Ever consider Spielman may not want to coach?
well, honestly the thought did cross my mind, but I am just guessing here and could be wrong, but I can't see Spielman refusing anything Buckeye if asked. He bleeds scarlet and gray. Obviously I could be wrong and as we all well know, he will always put family first.....maybe when the kids get older.
I do love listening to his games tho - I learn more in one game with him than a decade of seasons with anyone else. Loved it last year when pretty much every game he was basically calling out James for being an idiot
 
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Bill Lucas;1994637; said:
I'd love to see a comment from someone who was at the game regarding the receivers. Were they so blanketed the entire game that we couldn't throw any passes in rhythm?

I can tell you, it was NOT due to a stellar Miami secondary :)

To be perfectly honest, I think the receivers didn't do much to help the OSU QBs. There were at least a half-dozen throws that were just flat-out dropped.
 
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For me this game came down to missed opportunities. Had 2 chances deep in the red zone to put pressure on Harris even more and we got 2 fg's. The gasher on the first play hurt but it wasn't a knockout blow by any means. The dropped pick six was the last straw. That would have put it at 4 with a quarter to go and Harris was making bad decisions like we all thought.

Going forward, I believe this game showed me that tOSU needs to put Miller in at starter and get him the experience that he is missing and desperately needs. Unfortunately for JB, he just isn't composed enough to make the offense a threat. His throws the last 2 weeks against average db's prove that it is time to move on or we will likely have trouble moving forward this year. I wanted to see JB pull it off and become the QB for this year but it's time for Miller.

Our team is going to be completely different on offense next year and we have the schedule to be competitive towards the MNCG. This is the year to prep for that while playing for another B1G title and pushing for a BCS game. We just have to hope beyond hope that we get it together for these next 2 games and then the guys coming back help enough to beat Brasky.

Here's to finishing stronger than we started.

Go Bucks.
 
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Buckeye;1994709; said:
CF is still burned that U$C got hammered and it appears that Ohio State won't.

To call Ohio State a has-been less than 50 weeks AFTER they were ranked #1 in a season is a complete and utter joke.

I would say CF should be ashamed to put crap out like that, but no one really reads that site anymore anyway.


They haven't been the same since Scout purchased them a couple of years ago....too bad because they used to be pretty accurate in their assessments.....
 
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donberry;1994789; said:
well, honestly the thought did cross my mind, but I am just guessing here and could be wrong, but I can't see Spielman refusing anything Buckeye if asked. He bleeds scarlet and gray. Obviously I could be wrong and as we all well know, he will always put family first.....maybe when the kids get older.
I do love listening to his games tho - I learn more in one game with him than a decade of seasons with anyone else. Loved it last year when pretty much every game he was basically calling out James for being an idiot

Spielman was 2-15 in his one year as HC for the Columbus Destroyers. Obviously that's arena, but knowledge of football doesn't necessarily equal a good coach.
 
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My daughter probably added a year or two to my life by making me take her on a ride on the Hiawatha bicycle trail out here in Idaho (google it, a great ride) and possibly a remote or two. Heard the score on the radio and having not taped it, have yet to see a single play from the game. I have decided that I, am and hopefully the staff/fans will move on to the next game.

I was hoping that somehow this season would be different than the past 10 years or so, but alas it looks like unless something changes drastically it will be the same old story with slightly different characters. Somebody out there tell me who the most successful OSU quarterback in the NFL to date, and if your answer like mine is Mike Tomczak that tells you all we need to know. I see plenty of teams in the top 25 that are able to to throw for 200, 300, and sometimes 400 yards semi-consistantly, but we throw for 35. I know this one game is mainly due to 2 QB's with little to no game experience, but 35 yards. This is not a bash on our QB's , but on a system, scheme, general philosophy that outside of a senior TS, does nothing to develop NFL style quarterbacks. QB coach, play calling, recruiting I am not sure what the issue is, but it has been a problem for a very long time. Do I thing Miller has the skill set to take it to the next level, only time will tell but my quick answer would be no unless some or all of the above changes.

Every year for the past 10 or so I have semi-agreed with the comments of we are holding back the play calling, or guys just cannot get up for (fill in the local Ohio team) or something of the same ilk, but outside the Akrons of the world, we are not blowing people up at the line and not dominating inferior competition with our highly touted recruits. Teams do not seems to be intimidated by playing tOSU anymore and in fact the comment from the victorious locker room usually contains the "we knew exactly what was coming, and were able to handle it". Something at the core needs to change and I hope starting next Saturday we see it.

Let Miller do what he does best and design a scheme that fits his skill set and be daring, be innovative, open up the playbook and call anything and everything that we have. Come on 35 yards passing, I bet Miller could call a "everybody go out, and try to get open" call in the huddle and we could get at least 50 yards for the game easy. An open playbook may not win us every game, but it sure as hell would make the other team not guess the exact call before the ball is snapped.

IMHO we are at a dangerous crossroad that I thought we were at before, but somehow managed to avert for a while at least. We are always going to get the born to be a Buckeye recruits, but I see us slipping on the out of state guys who are tired of the vanilla OFFENSIVE offenses we throw out there. Just my humble inflated 0.02 but GOD we need something to shake up our mind numbing schemes, execution, mind set on offense.
 
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