tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[AF_Ohio32]

would love to get foster, gibson and one more WR

I agree with you on that...but how many QB's are they looking at taking in this class? I notice alot of offers out. I didn't want to post in any of the kids threads since this is their time, but I would lean more toward Zaire or Chapman (did they offer him?), maybe I am just being biased because I like dual threat...Miller style QB's.

 

[Buckeye86]

So, uh, I think the staff has officially turned their attention to landing a safety or two.

 

[calibuck]

Not sure that this is the elephant in the room or my imagination....but I'm baffled by how UFM is operating. Nothing like I've ever seen, although I've only experienced OSU recruiting, from Woody to Tress.

Say we've only got 20 spots (more or less), and from what I read on BP recruiting, it seems that there are upwards of 50 offers floating around the US of A for players. I'm more used to the rifle approach rather than Meyer's shotgun approach. I get that start with the OOS folk, give them some time to digest, and then work backwards into the in-state folk. But it seems like alot of the in-staters have noticed and have committed to school up north......

Is there something (probably) I'm missing? Is there a 'conditional' offer? We're offering, but we won't accept you until mr. X declines. Or somesuch. Anyone figure out the strategy, or has UFM been given an unlimited recruiting budget which he intends to overspend?

I too, am convinced that OSU brings in a top 5 class this year, and should given the start that they've got already. Just watching with fascination, as I've never seen anything like it, and probably the B1G hasn't either, unless the other coaches have done time in SEC....


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

 

[stowfan]

Not sure that this is the elephant in the room or my imagination....but I'm baffled by how UFM is operating. Nothing like I've ever seen, although I've only experienced OSU recruiting, from Woody to Tress.

Say we've only got 20 spots (more or less), and from what I read on BP recruiting, it seems that there are upwards of 50 offers floating around the US of A for players. I'm more used to the rifle approach rather than Meyer's shotgun approach. I get that start with the OOS folk, give them some time to digest, and then work backwards into the in-state folk. But it seems like alot of the in-staters have noticed and have committed to school up north......

Is there something (probably) I'm missing? Is there a 'conditional' offer? We're offering, but we won't accept you until mr. X declines. Or somesuch. Anyone figure out the strategy, or has UFM been given an unlimited recruiting budget which he intends to overspend?

I too, am convinced that OSU brings in a top 5 class this year, and should given the start that they've got already. Just watching with fascination, as I've never seen anything like it, and probably the B1G hasn't either, unless the other coaches have done time in SEC....


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

I'll start at the bottom of your post. You have seen it before, I believe Hoke put out almost 200 offers last year.

I completely agree, it's astonishing that new offers seem to go out every day.

As far as adversely impacting the in-state recruits, Thomas is the only UM recruit I really regret losing.

 

[Cornerback6]

I know for a lot of people out there this will sound like common sense. But winning a few games and showing our new O-scheming and D-pressure (one can hope) will do a lot of good for our recruiting efforts this year. I realize we have Urban, a sick 2012 class and a great start to the 2013, but there are a lot of kids out there who still want to see what comes of it. So, I'd just say be patient and watch things unravel. Even for the in-state kids, it's still painfully early, recruiting rankings change dramatically and in the end we'll get 20+ great players. If Thomas doesn't flip, so be it. The last 5* safety we lost to Michigan didn't pan out too hot.

There are few to no substitutes in the recruiting game for winning and being a national contender. Once we show that we're not a 6-7 team, rather more like a 10-2 (11-1, whatever) team, kids will see that and take notice. It's February and there are 11 long months ahead.

 

[BuckTwenty]

I agree with you on that...but how many QB's are they looking at taking in this class? I notice alot of offers out. I didn't want to post in any of the kids threads since this is their time, but I would lean more toward Zaire or Chapman (did they offer him?), maybe I am just being biased because I like dual threat...Miller style QB's.

What is generally speculated is that we're looking to take 2 QBs in this class, potentially. They've not offered Chapman (yet), but if I had to pick 2 QBs to take in this class of all the film I've seen so far that are uncommitted, I agree it would be Zaire and Chapman.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Not sure that this is the elephant in the room or my imagination....but I'm baffled by how UFM is operating. Nothing like I've ever seen, although I've only experienced OSU recruiting, from Woody to Tress.

Say we've only got 20 spots (more or less), and from what I read on BP recruiting, it seems that there are upwards of 50 offers floating around the US of A for players. I'm more used to the rifle approach rather than Meyer's shotgun approach.

:gobucks3::gobucks4:

Maybe it's just me but somehow the shotgun approach is getting lost in translation. I mean unless you are talking "Training Day" and refer to UFM as being surgical with it I just don't get the terminology. I think UFM has made it perfectly clear what type of kid he wants and what he's looking for on film. Let's not forget that he hasn't even had a football practice with these guys yet. I can't wait till he actually knows what the needs are on the field and then see what happens. I think it'll be sniper mode from that point on.

 

[NastyNatiBuck]

I consider myself a casual observer of recruiting. Just casual enough to know what is going on while convincing myself that I have not crossed some weird boundary. Anyways, I used to not pay attention to a player until OSU had offered. That way I could read aout the 20 or 25 players that OSU had a real chance with. That method is worthless now. UFM has offered like 200 players. I now need a new system. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

I consider myself a casual observer of recruiting. Just casual enough to know what is going on while convincing myself that I have not crossed some weird boundary. Anyways, I used to not pay attention to a player until OSU had offered. That way I could read aout the 20 or 25 players that OSU had a real chance with. That method is worthless now. UFM has offered like 200 players. I now need a new system. Anyone have any ideas?

Simple, just check the recruiting forum on Feb 1 2013. :) outside of that I think its a crapshoot

 

[buckeyegunners]

I consider myself a casual observer of recruiting. Just casual enough to know what is going on while convincing myself that I have not crossed some weird boundary. Anyways, I used to not pay attention to a player until OSU had offered. That way I could read aout the 20 or 25 players that OSU had a real chance with. That method is worthless now. UFM has offered like 200 players. I now need a new system. Anyone have any ideas?

I'm a recruiting nut and trying to figure it out myself.

I think he's playing it by ear and wants to evaluate a lot of these kids more and isn't pressing many to commit. He pressed Jalin and Cam because he wanted them to be the leaders of the class and obviously wants guys like Jaylon Smith and Robert Foster and would take their commitment at any time.

He knew Mike Heuerman wanted to decide early so made the decision to offer and he will be one of our next commits. Also made the decision to offer Lisle as the big boys started coming in and he wanted to stay ahead of it.

Unlike Hoke who picks a bunch of targets per position group he deems worthy then closes shop, Meyer goes after his top target and if that falls through he'll go to plan B.

With a guy like McCray he hasn't offered yet probably because there is no pressure. McCray isn't deciding any time soon and the second he gets an Ohio State offer he's in so taking more time to evaluate him. With Deveon Smith and Ben Gedeon he likely offered to stay in the game but not sure he even wants them.

Just my thoughts on his recruiting so far. I could be dead wrong but not getting the impression that he is pressuring kids to commit and is still figuring out who his top targets are.

 

[AF_Ohio32]

I'm a recruiting nut and trying to figure it out myself.

I think he's playing it by ear and wants to evaluate a lot of these kids more and isn't pressing many to commit. He pressed Jalin and Cam because he wanted them to be the leaders of the class and obviously wants guys like Jaylon Smith and Robert Foster and would take their commitment at any time.

He knew Mike Heuerman wanted to decide early so made the decision to offer and he will be one of our next commits. Also made the decision to offer Lisle as the big boys started coming in and he wanted to stay ahead of it.

Unlike Hoke who picks a bunch of targets per position group he deems worthy then closes shop, Meyer goes after his top target and if that falls through he'll go to plan B.

With a guy like McCray he hasn't offered yet probably because there is no pressure. McCray isn't deciding any time soon and the second he gets an Ohio State offer he's in so taking more time to evaluate him. With Deveon Smith and Ben Gedeon he likely offered to stay in the game but not sure he even wants them.

Just my thoughts on his recruiting so far. I could be dead wrong but not getting the impression that he is pressuring kids to commit and is still figuring out who his top targets are.

This help answer one of my questions, but should we be worried that scUM is pulling in alot of recruits early this year? Just looking for thoughts on this.

 

[Cornerback6]

should we be worried that scUM is pulling in alot of recruits early this year? Just looking for thoughts on this.

I'll take a stab at this since I'm probably the only one awake right now and near a computer.

For starters, I am by no means an "expert", but I have followed recruiting pretty closely for the past decade or so.

Should we be worried that scUM is pulling in a lot of early recruits? Absolutely not. They are going to get theirs whether it's month 1 of the 12 month season or in the final hour. They're taking what they can get in the early stages whereas we are taking a slower approach by targeting more national level guys as opposed to locals. If we wanted to, we could have 10 kids in our class right now as well...IF we offered the right kids. But then you might not be getting the 10 best players for your buck, so to speak. scUM has pulled in an excellent O-line haul and grabbed a couple of other very solid prospects. When things play out in the end though, we will be a top 5 class and they might too. The benefit of being in Ohio (and the home team) is that we have the opportunity to offer more national-level talent off the bat and kind of wait and see on the local kids. Sure there will be those who feel scorned for lack of an early tOSU offer and head off to scUM, but the hardcores will wait and earn their offers at camps or through their senior season. There will also be scUM fans complaining towards signing day that things are slow because they blew their wad in the early months and that they've lost their steam whereas we'll probably still be in the fight for 2-5 studs. It's just an entirely different strategy.

Reason to worry? Nah. Impressive that scUM has roped in this many kids this early? Yes and no. The quality is certainly there, but in the end, I think our class will have more star power and national level players. They definitely grabbed a couple kids that we offered, but when the year is over, I think it's important that our national reputation grow and we continue to get our foot in the door of other talent-rich states like VA/FL/NC/ETC. Even if Ohio is loaded year in and year out, there's no reason not to look around at the best of the best.

 

[wadc45]

This help answer one of my questions, but should we be worried that scUM is pulling in alot of recruits early this year? Just looking for thoughts on this.

Absolutely not.

 

[Buckeye86]

Ohio State Recruiting: 2013 Offensive Line
theBuckeyeBattleCry.com

 

[buckeyeinfla]

michigan doing the same thing they did last year...filling up early...osu not only caught them but passed them..even with all the craziness