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2020 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

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From a live chat at YouTube for Letterman Row's stream of Day's presser today:

Lettermen Row - "Friday night lights is usually at the end of June, but a date has not been announced. Our recruiting guru, Birm, said he doesn't think they will hold one this year."
 
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With the addition of Grant Toutant yesterday, Ohio State HAS to have one of the largest OLines ever! Just in the 2020 cycle alone you have Paris Johnson, Trey Leroux, and Grant, who are all over 6’7”. Add Dawand Jones from last year, at 6’8” 360, and sheeeesh!!!

It’s pretty clear to see that this staff covets size up front. Hopefully it doesn’t turn into an ‘06 type of team where the OLine is huge but guys like Derrick Harvey and Jarvis Moss are blowing right by them.
 
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CHANGING HIS STARS. Recruiting rankings absolutely do matter and also I would take A.J. Hawk over any five-star linebacker the Buckeyes have ever signed, in hindsight. Both of those statements can be – and very much are – true.

Hawk was a three star, but there was never really much doubt how good he was even as a freshman. Thankfully for the local team, there was never really much doubt where he was going to school, either.

From Marcus Hartman of the Dayton Daily News:

“When Ohio State offered it was a no-brainer for me,” Hawk said. “Coach (Jim) Tressel offered me and I tried to commit right on the spot. He wanted me to go home and talk to my parents and OK it, but I said trust me they know. They know it’s where I want to be.

“For me it was no question — growing up in Centerville I knew if I had a chance to play at Ohio State I was not going to turn it down. I didn’t give it much thought however many stars you get in high school and what kind of recruit you may be. I was just happy to be there.”

The lowest-rated of four linebackers Ohio State signed in 2002 (Note: D'Andrea - 5 stars, Carpenter - 4 stars, White - 4 stars, and Hawk - 3 stars), Hawk ended up with as many All-Big Ten seasons as recruiting stars (three).

A lot of folks like to make Hawk the poster child of their "stars don't matter!" tirade, but let's not pretend like the top-10 outside linebacker the Buckeyes also signed in that class wasn't a first-round pick, as well. (note: that would have been Bobby Carpenter)

What Hawk really shows is how important it is to identify can't-miss Ohio talent early. Under Urban Meyer, there's a solid chance Hawk would have ended up at Wisconsin, Iowa or Michigan State. The Buckeyes would have survived, for sure, but I like this version of history better.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...-hall-of-fame-best-tradition-college-football

Some of the other 3 star guys in the 2002 class became major contributors (and played in the NFL) too: Nick Mangold, Santonio Holmes, Rob Sims, and Jay Richardson.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Season/2002-Football/Commits/

Just sayin': Check it out, that was one hell of a recruiting class.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
CHANGING HIS STARS. Recruiting rankings absolutely do matter and also I would take A.J. Hawk over any five-star linebacker the Buckeyes have ever signed, in hindsight. Both of those statements can be – and very much are – true.

Hawk was a three star, but there was never really much doubt how good he was even as a freshman. Thankfully for the local team, there was never really much doubt where he was going to school, either.

From Marcus Hartman of the Dayton Daily News:

“When Ohio State offered it was a no-brainer for me,” Hawk said. “Coach (Jim) Tressel offered me and I tried to commit right on the spot. He wanted me to go home and talk to my parents and OK it, but I said trust me they know. They know it’s where I want to be.

“For me it was no question — growing up in Centerville I knew if I had a chance to play at Ohio State I was not going to turn it down. I didn’t give it much thought however many stars you get in high school and what kind of recruit you may be. I was just happy to be there.”

The lowest-rated of four linebackers Ohio State signed in 2002 (Note: D'Andrea - 5 stars, Carpenter - 4 stars, White - 4 stars, and Hawk - 3 stars), Hawk ended up with as many All-Big Ten seasons as recruiting stars (three).

A lot of folks like to make Hawk the poster child of their "stars don't matter!" tirade, but let's not pretend like the top-10 outside linebacker the Buckeyes also signed in that class wasn't a first-round pick, as well. (note: that would have been Bobby Carpenter)

What Hawk really shows is how important it is to identify can't-miss Ohio talent early. Under Urban Meyer, there's a solid chance Hawk would have ended up at Wisconsin, Iowa or Michigan State. The Buckeyes would have survived, for sure, but I like this version of history better.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...-hall-of-fame-best-tradition-college-football

Some of the other 3 star guys in the 2002 class became major contributors (and played in the NFL) too: Nick Mangold, Santonio Holmes, Rob Sims, and Jay Richardson.

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Season/2002-Football/Commits/

Just sayin': Check it out, that was one hell of a recruiting class.
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Great class! That was the first year I started following recruiting. Been an Ohio State fan since I was 11 (Eddie’s fault).

Hawk, Santonio, Mangold, and Rob Sims were all 3 stars and played a lot of years in the NFL, at pro bowl levels and a couple of Super Bowl rings.

Damn! If only MoC would have had his act together back then!
 
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bucknut502 said:
With the addition of Grant Toutant yesterday, Ohio State HAS to have one of the largest OLines ever! Just in the 2020 cycle alone you have Paris Johnson, Trey Leroux, and Grant, who are all over 6’7”. Add Dawand Jones from last year, at 6’8” 360, and sheeeesh!!!

It’s pretty clear to see that this staff covets size up front. Hopefully it doesn’t turn into an ‘06 type of team where the OLine is huge but guys like Derrick Harvey and Jarvis Moss are blowing right by them.
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They love their size and their Ohio boys - and the rest of us rejoiced.
 
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bucknut502 said:
With the addition of Grant Toutant yesterday, Ohio State HAS to have one of the largest OLines ever! Just in the 2020 cycle alone you have Paris Johnson, Trey Leroux, and Grant, who are all over 6’7”. Add Dawand Jones from last year, at 6’8” 360, and sheeeesh!!!

It’s pretty clear to see that this staff covets size up front. Hopefully it doesn’t turn into an ‘06 type of team where the OLine is huge but guys like Derrick Harvey and Jarvis Moss are blowing right by them.
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I dont think it started with this staff, as Meyer also covered size(Jordan, Decker, Bowen, Pridgeon, Feder, NPF, Prince, to name a few).
And I doubt it ends up like 06, as the difference here is the staff also covers big guys with athleticism and quick feet. The statue OL with lead feet is gone, if you cant move in this offense, good luck in the transfer portal
 
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