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2021 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by ScriptOhio, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Yeah I see a lot of this... I also think momentum is very real with recruiting. These RBs see the WRs that we are bringing in as well as the OL. So they want to be apart of that. For example we have players like the DT from Washington who see the craziness of playing alongside a player like Sawyer and what that enables them to do on the field.

    Then when you have a DL haul like we are going to have and a history like we have at DB and they want to be apart of that.

    It seems to me at least that Ryan has switched the mindset slightly in that it's much more family oriented. Still very competitive but just enough laid back attitude too.
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  2. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    No Jantzen Dunn. Are you waiting for April, or have you changed your projection?
  3. HotMic

    HotMic Mr. so-and-so Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    I think Turrentine out of the blue might have changed things.
  4. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

  5. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Looking at the top 11 in the 247 rankings (not composite)...there is a real chance we could end up with over half of them. Insane to the membrane.
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  6. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    2021 Football Recruiter Rankings

    In other rankings news, following Tuesday's commitment from Andre Turrentine, five Buckeye assistants are ranked in the top 10 of 247Sports' recruiter rankings:
    • No. 1 Brian Hartline
    • No. 2 Tony Alford
    • No. 4 Kerry Coombs
    • No. 7 Larry Johnson
    • No. 8 Al Washington

    Entire article:
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  7. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    Who is the 6th?
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  8. HotMic

    HotMic Mr. so-and-so Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

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  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I thought it was just me but I saw only five, too...
  10. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

  11. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Could Ohio State take three running backs in the Class of 2021? Yes.

    Would Ohio State take three running backs its class of 2021? Yes, I think so, because I just don’t see any possible scenario where the Buckeyes would say no to either Donovan Edwards or TreVeyon Henderson if each of those two standout tailbacks decided to commit in the near future to position coach Tony Alford and Ohio State.

    But it’s also very unlikely that both Edwards and Henderson would commit to the Buckeyes. So, the question above — one I’ve been asked approximately 423,121 times after the surge in Ohio State-tinted momentum on the TreVeyon Henderson front earlier this week — is not exactly a realistic outcome.
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  12. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

  13. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Social Distancing: Ohio State’s Passing Game vs. Michigan’s Pass Defense


    We began our Social Distancing series examining the recruiting of Michigan and Ohio State on Thursday with a broad look overall at the two rosters and the respective rankings of their scholarship players as recruits.

    Now we move forward with a more compartmental look, concentrating our focus on distinct areas of the field and how they compare.

    Today, we’ll take a look at Ohio State’s passing game against the Michigan pass defense.

    To do this, we are pitting the Buckeye quarterbacks, receivers, and offensive tackles against the Wolverine cornerbacks, safeties, and defensive ends.

    In the graphic below, the overall ranking of the player is listed first, followed by the respective position rank. These are not in order of who is starting, but rather order of rankings. There are several areas where a much lower-ranked player is actually starting. This can be both a good or a bad thing depending on how good that player is and why he is starting. Neither is really the concern of this particular exercise, however.

    Pass to Win?
    Urban Meyer went 7-0 against Michigan at Ohio State’s head coach, but those teams did it with the running game. It wasn’t until his final matchup in 2018 that his Buckeyes actually threw for more than 200 yards against the Wolverines.

    Of course, in that game, quarterback Dwayne Haskins more than doubled any previous output under Meyer by throwing for 396 yards and six touchdowns.

    Last year, Justin Fields wasn’t quite at that level, but his 302 yards passing and four touchdowns was pretty darn good.

    When you look at the OSU passing game as we’re describing it here — QB, WR, OT — there are six composite 5-star players and 12 Top 100 players.

    The Michigan pass defense?

    They have one 5-star player and three total Top 100 players. To put it another way, Ohio State has twice the number of 5-star players in the passing game as Michigan has Top 100 guys trying to defend it.

    Here’s a look. (Note: Players with a ‘999’ overall ranking or ’99’ position ranking means that they were ranked outside of the top 1,000 players overall or top 100 players at their respective positions.)


    Twelve of Ohio State’s 22 players listed above are former Top 100 recruits, including all four slot receivers, which has proven difficult for Michigan to defend over the last few years.

    All told, the Buckeyes have eight receivers who were Top 100 recruits and they will be matching up against a Wolverine secondary with just two former Top 100 recruits. None of those eight receivers are Chris Olave, by the way, who has produced three touchdowns against the Michigan defense the past two outings. He was the No. 399 player in the 2018 recruiting class, proving once again that rankings aren’t perfect (not that anybody here is trying to prove that point).

    The average overall rank of the Buckeye receivers is 160. The average overall rank of the Michigan cornerbacks is 431.

    Olave’s presence actually drags down OSU’s receiver rankings.

    Since Brian Hartline took over as Ohio State’s receivers coach, the Buckeyes have signed six wide receivers and currently have two receivers committed in the 2021 class. All eight of those receivers are Top 100 players.

    The average ranking of the 2019 and 2020 signees is 48, while the average position ranking of those six receivers is 8.

    The average ranking of Michigan’s 2019 and 2020 cornerback signees is 357 and their average position ranking is 29. If we remove the outlier, who is ranked No. 876 overall, things look quite a bit better. The number drops to an average rank of 253, but that’s still over 200 spots lower than the average matchup they will face against the Buckeyes.

    Sure, some of those corners may end up at safety, but that doesn’t fix the issue at hand. Ambry Thomas — headed into his final year — is Michigan’s lone Top 100 player at cornerback.

    While things continue to get better (in recruiting terms) at Ohio State, the exact opposite is happening at Michigan. And it’s not like it’s just the top two corners who have to play against the Buckeyes. At least three need to be out on the field — and with the way OSU uses their slot receivers, it’s not a good idea to use a safety or the least-talented of your three corners in the slot.

    Michigan sophomore Daxton Hill had some very nice moments last season as a true freshman, growing into the nickel role. Will he be the slot corner against Ohio State? Or would you rather have his speed and range back deep to help out against Chris Olave. These are serious questions because even with Hill as the No. 14 player overall in the 2019 class, the average ranking of Michigan’s safeties is 407.

    Entire article:
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  14. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

  15. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I know he doesn't need it but... Hartline should be our highest paid assistant.

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